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Rapporto FBI: UFO in Germania nel 1944, Detroit, 1957

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R01 · 2026-05-08
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11/7/57
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Un rapporto dell'FBI dal 1957 che descrive l'intervista con Wladyslaw Krasuski, che ha raccontato di aver visto un grande veicolo circolare che si alzava verticalmente nella Germania del 1944 vicino a un complesso militare tedesco.

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Un fascicolo dell'FBI di Detroit di 15 pagine (100-26505, «Unidentified Flying Objects; IS-X», 1957 con un'aggiunta del 1966). Il 6 novembre 1957 il Direttore inviò un teletipo urgente all'SAC di Detroit: Wladyslaw Krasuski, di 5457 Jos. Campau, Detroit, aveva scritto il 4 novembre a Robert Cutler, Assistente Speciale del Presidente, dicendo di «poter avere qualche informazione sul razzo in Texas», di cui aveva sentito parlare in un programma radiofonico polacco; il Bureau non aveva informazioni su di lui e ordinò di intervistarlo subito. L'SA Cassius Rathbun lo intervistò il 7 novembre 1957 (sono inclusi appunti manoscritti con schizzi). Krasuski disse di essere stato portato dalla Polonia come prigioniero di guerra a Gut Alt Golssen, circa 30 miglia a est di Berlino, nel maggio 1942 e di esservi rimasto fino a poche settimane dopo la fine della guerra; arrivò negli Stati Uniti come Displaced Person nel 1951 e lavora alla birreria Gobel di Detroit. Descrisse un episodio del 1944: mentre andava al lavoro in un campo, il motore del trattore si spense su una strada che attraversava una zona paludosa, con un sibilo acuto simile a quello di un grosso generatore elettrico; una guardia «SS» parlò brevemente con l'autista tedesco e il motore ripartì normalmente quando il rumore cessò. Circa tre ore dopo, lontano dalla strada, dove la squadra tagliava il «fieno», osservò di nascosto un recinto circolare di circa 100-150 iarde di diametro, schermato da una parete tipo telone alta circa 50 piedi, da cui un veicolo si sollevò lentamente in verticale per superare la parete e si allontanò piano in orizzontale fuori dalla sua vista, dietro alcuni alberi. Visto da circa 500 piedi, fu descritto come circolare, di 75-100 iarde di diametro e alto circa 14 piedi, con sezioni superiore e inferiore fisse di colore grigio scuro, alte da cinque a sei piedi, e una sezione centrale di circa tre piedi che sembrava muoversi rapidamente e produceva una sfocatura continua come un'elica; il rumore era simile al precedente ma più basso, e il motore del trattore si spense di nuovo. Vide anche cavi metallici non isolati, forse di rame, di 1,5-2 pollici di diametro, sul terreno e sotto di esso, che a quanto pare collegavano il recinto a una piccola struttura di cemento a forma di colonna; dopo la guerra i cavi erano stati rimossi ed entrambi i luoghi erano sott'acqua. La squadra era composta da 16 o 18 prigionieri di guerra russi, francesi e polacchi; ricordava per nome solo Franciszek Grabowski, allora sulla cinquantina e presumibilmente tornato in Polonia. L'airtel dell'SAC riferisce nessun segno di comportamento irrazionale o anomalo, nessun precedente su Krasuski o sulla moglie negli indici di Detroit e registri di credito che confermano indirizzo e impiego. Il fascicolo si chiude con una lettera dell'ottobre 1966 dell'Oklahoma UFO Research Association (Kerry Liesch, direttore) che chiede informazioni su avvistamenti nella zona di Detroit all'inizio della primavera, e con la risposta dell'11 ottobre 1966: l'ufficio non dispone di tali informazioni e l'Aeronautica, alla Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, potrebbe essere l'ente competente.

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[PAGE 1] Department of Justice. FD-245 (REV. 1-21-80). U.S. Department of Justice. THIS CASE ORIGINATED AT / MUST NOT BE REMOVED FROM OR ADDED TO THIS FILE. FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (partly covered by a label). [Label: FBI - CENTRAL RECORDS CENTER, DE - DETROIT, Class/Case # 0100 26505, Sub, Vol. 1, Serial # 1, OPEN, 8/08/374524] [Stamp: COPIED FOR FOIPA. Table: SERIALS: All; REQUESTERS FULL NAME: [handwritten name]; COMPUTER NUMBER: 245,974; DATE: 5-31-85; BY: [handwritten initials]] See also Nos. [blank] [Handwritten: Closed Section] [Stamp: Declassification authority derived from FBI Automatic Declassification Guide, issued May 24, 2007. Screened by NARA (RF) 11-19-2025 FOIA # 90290 DOCID: 34714592] 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 1 [PAGE 2] 1. Notes re: interview with WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI (rec'd 11/7/57( [Stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED [HEREIN struck out] IS UNCLASSIFIED; handwritten: on this envelope; DATE 5/22/85 BY SP-6 [signature]] [Handwritten: 100-26505-1A] [Stamp: SEARCHED INDEXED SERIALIZED FILED NOV 18 1957 FBI - DETROIT] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 2 [PAGE 3] [Page rotated; envelope form] Date Received 11/7/57. From (Name of contributor) [blank]. (Address of contributor) [blank]. By [Special Agent signature] (Name of Special Agent). To Be Returned: Yes ( ) No (checked). Description: Notes re interview w/ WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI 11/7/57. File No. 100-26505-1a/ [stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED [HEREIN struck out] IS UNCLASSIFIED; handwritten: in this envelope; DATE 5/22/85 BY SP6 [signature]] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 3 [PAGE 4] [Diagram: handwritten pencil sketch notes on lined paper — concentric circles, several craft outlines, a map-like sketch.] WA 27516 - 5457 Jos Campau 11/7/57. Labels: "post cabbage? seen in 44 gone in 45" [partly illegible]; 100; 5 1/2, 3, 5 1/2; Dk gray; SS; 25-35 mi Berlin; 50' high gas; 100 - 150; 44-45; 2 mix; SS Major; [illegible] Golssen; SS. [Stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/85 BY SP-6 [signature]] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 4 [PAGE 5] [Page upside down; lined notebook sheet with only faint show-through of the sketch on page 4.] [Handwritten at bottom:] Interview w/ WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI 11/7/57 100-26505. [Faint stamp show-through: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 5 [PAGE 6] [Handwritten at top of lined sheet:] Franciszek Grabowski. NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 6 [PAGE 7] Record Request FD-125 (5-27-55). Checkboxes: Birth, Credit, Criminal (checked), Motor Vehicle, Death, Marriage*, INS. To: [blank]. Return to: [handwritten surname, illegible]. File number 100-26505. Buded: [blank]. Name and aliases of subject, applicant or employee & spouse: [Handwritten:] WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI aka WALTER. Addresses: Residence: [Handwritten:] 5457 Jos. Campau. Business: [Handwritten:] [illegible] Gobel Brewery. Former: [blank]. *Date and place of marriage (if pertinent): [blank]. Race: W. Sex: Male (checked). Birth date: [redacted FOIA(b)(6)]. Birthplace: [redacted FOIA(b)(6)]. Age, Height, Weight, Hair, Eyes, Arrest Number, Fingerprint Classification, Criminal Specialty: [blank]. Specific information desired: [Handwritten:] any record. (See reverse side for results of check.) [Faint show-through of reverse side text, illegible] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 7 [PAGE 8] URGENT 11-6-57 5-40 PM CS. TO SAC, DETROIT. FROM DIRECTOR 1P. UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS, IS-X. MR. W. KIASUSKI, [handwritten: Complainant] [handwritten: 5457] FIVE FOUR FIVE SEVEN JOS. CAMPAU, DETROIT ELEVEN MICHIGAN, ADDRESSED LETTER DATED NOVEMBER FOURTH TO ROBERT CUTLER, WHO IS SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT, STATING QUOTE I MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE ROCKET IN TEXAS. I HEARD ABOUT IT ON THE POLISH RADIO PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO WHOM I COULD SPEAK TO. UNQUOTE. IMMEDIATELY INTERVIEW KIASUSKI FOR ANY INFORMATION HE MAY HAVE. BUFILES REFLECT NO INFORMATION RE KIASUSKI. SUTEL. END ACK PLS. OK FBI DE JH. [Handwritten notes, faint and partly illegible: "SAC advised 5:45 PM 11/6/57 Wm. J. Smith advised ... fwd. 1. Indices - neg 2. Set up appointment for a.m. ... not listed in directory, no phone for address on X'cross"] [Stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/85 BY SP-6 [signature]] [Handwritten: 11/7/57 100-26505-1] [Stamp: SEARCHED INDEXED SERIALIZED FILED NOV 6 1957 FBI - DETROIT] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 8 [PAGE 9] Detroit 31, Michigan November 7, 1957. [Stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/85 BY [signature]] UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS. In response to a letter directed by him to Mr. Robert Cutler, Special Assistant to President Dwight D. Eisenhower, reflecting that he "might have some information about the rocket in Texas," Wladyslaw Krasuski, 5457 Joseph Campau, Detroit, was interviewed November 7, 1957, and furnished the following information: Born [redacted FOIA(b)(6)] in the State of [redacted FOIA(b)(6)], Krasuski was brought from Poland as a Prisoner of War to Gut Alt Golssen, approximately 30 miles east of Berlin, Germany, in May, 1942, where he remained until a few weeks after the end of World War II. He spent the following years at Displaced Persons Camps at Kork, Strasburg, Offenburg, Milheim and Freiburg, Germany. He attended a radio technician school at Freiburg and for about a year was employed in a textile mill at Laurachbaden, Germany. He arrived in the United States at New York, May 2, 1951, via the "S.S. General Stewart" as a Displaced Person, destined to the Reverend Father Petro Walkowiak, Hamtramck, Michigan; his alien registration number - [redacted (b)(6)]. Since May, 1951, he has been employed at the Gobel Brewery, Detroit. News report of mysterious vehicle in Texas causing engines to stall prompted him to communicate with the United States Government concerning a similar phenomenon observed by him in 1944 in the area of Gut Alt Golssen. According to Krasuski, during 1944, month not recalled, while enroute to work in a field a short distance north of Gut Alt Golssen, their tractor engine stalled on a road through a swamp area. No machinery or other vehicle was then visible although a noise was heard described as a high-pitched whine similar to that produced by a large electric generator. 5 - Bureau (RM) 1 - Detroit (100-26505) CR:JLK (6) [Handwritten: 100-26505-2] [Stamp: Searched Serialized Indexed Filed] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 9 [PAGE 10] An "SS" guard appeared and talked briefly with the German driver of the tractor, who waited five to ten minutes, after which the noise stopped and the tractor engine was started normally. Approximately 3 hours later in the same swamp area, but away from the road where the work crew was cutting "hay", he surreptitiously, because of the German in charge of the crew and "SS" guards in the otherwise deserted area, observed a circular enclosure approximately 100 to 150 yards in diameter protected from viewers by a tarpaulin-type wall approximately 50 feet high, from which a vehicle was observed to slowly rise vertically to a height sufficient to clear the wall and then to move slowly horizontally a short distance out of his view, which was obstructed by nearby trees. This vehicle, observed from approximately 500 feet, was described as circular in shape, 75 to 100 yards in diameter, and about 14 feet high, consisting of dark gray stationary top and bottom sections, five to six feet high. The approximate three foot middle section appeared to be a rapidly moving component producing a continuous blur similar to an aeroplane propeller, but extending the circumference of the vehicle so far as could be observed. The noise emanating from the vehicle was similar but of somewhat lower pitch than the noise previously heard. The engine of the tractor again stalled on this occasion and no effort was made by the German driver to start the engine until the noise stopped, after which the engine started normally. Uninsulated metal, possibly copper, cables one and one-half inch to two inches in diameter, on and under the surface of the ground, in some places covered by water, were observed on this and previous occasions, apparently running between the enclosure and a small concrete column-like structure between the road and enclosure. This area was not visited by Krasuski again until shortly after the end of World War II, when it was observed the cables had been removed and the previous locations of the concrete structure and the enclosure were covered by water. Krasuski stated he has not been in communication since 1945 with any of the work crew of 16 or 18 men, consisting of Russian, French and Polish POWs, who had discussed this incident among themselves many times. However, of these, Krasuski was able to recall by name only Franciszek Grabowski, no address known, described as then about 50 years of age and presumed by Krasuski to have returned to Poland after 1945. -2- NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 10 [PAGE 11] This report is loaned to you by the FBI, and neither it nor its contents are to be distributed outside your agency. -3- NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 11 [PAGE 12] 11/7/57 AIRTEL AMSD - RM. TO: DIRECTOR, FBI. FROM: SAC, DETROIT (100-26505). UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS - X. [Stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/85 BY [signature]] Re Detroit Teletype to Bureau, 11/7/57, captioned "UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS - X." Interview of WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI, aka. WALTER KRASUSKI, reported in Blank Memo, five copies of which are enclosed herewith for the Bureau, was conducted by SA CASSIUS RATHBUN. No indication of irrational or otherwise abnormal behavior by KRASUSKI was observed during the interview. KRASUSKI advised that his communication was directed to Mr. ROBERT CUTLER rather than to President EISENHOWER after seeing Mr. CUTLER's picture and identification with the President's Office in a local paper. KRASUSKI resides with his wife, nee JOANN WISNIEWSKI, married in 1952 at Detroit, and four small children, in a single residence in an old Polish neighborhood at 5457 Jos. Campau Avenue, Detroit. No previous record located in Detroit Indices identifiable with KRASUSKI or his wife. On 11/7/57, WILLIAM RECKNAGEL, Manager, advised IC PAUL DESMOND that records of the Mich. Merchants Credit Association, reflect only credit inquiries concerning WALTER KRASUSKI during 6/56 and 3/57 and 6/57, which confirm his local address and employment. 3 - Bureau (Encls.5)(RM) 1 - Detroit CR:JLK (4) [Handwritten initials and scrawls; 100-26505-3] [Stamp: Searched Serialized Indexed Filed] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 12 [PAGE 13] FD-36 (Rev. 3-13-56). FBI. Date: 11/7/57. Transmit the following message via TELETYPE. URGENT (Priority or Method of Mailing). TO: DIRECTOR, FBI. FROM: SAC, DETROIT. UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; IS - X. [Stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/22/85 BY SP-6 [signature]] REBUTEL NOV. SIX LAST. WLAYSLAW KRASUSKI, AKA. WALTER KRASUSKI, [redacted FOIA(b)(6)] WAS GERMAN POW MAY, NINETEEN FORTY TWO, UNTIL SUMMER OF NINETEEN FOURTY FIVE. ARRIVED NY MAY TWO, NINETEEN FIFTY ONE, AS DP, AR NO. [redacted (b)(6)]. KRASUSKI UPON INTERVIEW ADVISED THAT WHILE GERMAN POW DURING NINETEEN FORTY FOUR, OBSERVED A VEHICLE DESCRIBED AS CIRCULAR IN SHAPE, SEVENTY FIVE TO ONE HUNDRED YARDS IN DIAMETER, APPROXIMATELY FOURTEEN FEET HIGH. THE VEHICLE WAS OBSERVED TO SLOWLY RISE VERTICALLY TO HEIGHTS SUFFICIENT TO CLEAR FIFTY FOOT WALL AND TO MOVE SLOWLY HORIZONTALLY A SHORT DISTANCE OUT OF VIEW OBSTRUCTED BY TREES. ENGINE OF TRACTOR FAILED TO OPERATE DURING THIS PERIOD AND ONE [SEVERAL struck out] OTHER OCCASION WHEN HIGH PITCHED WHINING NOISE HEARD IN AREA. NO INDICATION OF MENTAL INSTABILITY DURING INTERVIEW. FURTHER DETAILS FOLLOW AMSD. WLS:JLK DE 100-26505 (1) [Handwritten: 100-26505-4] [Stamp: Searched Serialized Indexed Filed] Approved: [signature] Special Agent in Charge. Sent [handwritten time] M Per [initials] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 13 [PAGE 14] The Oklahoma UFO Research Association. Kerry Liesch, Director, 3539 N. W. 53rd, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Bob Stamps, Co-Director, 5024 N. W. 20th, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. October 2, 1966. FBI OFFICE, 913 Federal Building, Detroit, Michigan. Dear Sirs: My organization would appreciate any information that you could send us on Unidentified Flying Objects, specifically those sightings in your area in early spring of this year. We will greatly appreciate any information that you could send us on this subject. I thank you for your time and co-operation. Sincerely: Kerry Liesch, Director, O.U.F.O.R.A. KKL/lw [Stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/15/85 BY SP-6 [signature]] [Handwritten: 100-26505-5] [Stamp: SEARCHED INDEXED SERIALIZED FILED OCT 7 1966 FBI - DETROIT] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 14 [PAGE 15] Post Office Box 2118, Detroit, Michigan 48231, October 11, 1966. Mr. Kerry Liesch, Director, The Oklahoma UFO Research Association, 3539 N.W. 53rd, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Dear Mr. Liesch: This is to acknowledge your letter of October 2, 1966. Please be advised that this office does not have the information you have requested. It is possible that the United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio, may be the proper agency to contact. Very truly yours, [signature] Paul H. Stoddard, Special Agent in Charge. 1-Addressee 1-Detroit (100-26505) IRA:frq (2) [Stamp: ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE 5/15/85 BY SP-6 [signature]] [Handwritten: 100-26505-6] [Stamp: SEARCHED SERIALIZED INDEXED FILED] NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 15

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Wladyslaw KrasuskiFranciszek GrabowskiRobert CutlerKerry LieschFBIO.U.F.O.B.A.Detroit, MichiganGermanydisc

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