65_HS1-101634279_100-DE-26505
Official description
An FBI report from 1957 detailing the interview with Wladyslaw Krasuski, who recounted seeing a large, circular, vertically-rising vehicle in 1944 Germany near a German military compound.
✦ AI summary
A 15-page FBI file (Detroit field office, file 100-26505, "Flying Objects; IS-X," late 1957-1966) documenting an interview with Wladyslaw (aka Walter) Krasuski, a Polish immigrant in Detroit. Krasuski had written to Robert Cutler, Special Assistant to the President, on 4 November 1957 after hearing a Polish-language radio report about "the rocket in Texas," prompting an urgent FBI Director teletype to Detroit SAC to interview him. In the interview (7 Nov 1957), Krasuski — found to show no signs of irrational behavior — recounted an incident from during WWII while he was part of a forced-labor work crew (16-18 men, a mix of Russian, French, and Polish POWs) in Germany. While operating a tractor near a work site, the engine repeatedly stalled amid a strange throbbing noise; investigating a wooded, restricted area away from the road, he observed a circular enclosure roughly 100-125 yards in diameter, screened by a ~50-foot tarpaulin-type wall, from which a disc-shaped vehicle (~75-100 yards diameter, ~14 feet tall, dark gray stationary top/bottom sections with a ~3-foot middle section spinning like a propeller and producing a blur around its circumference) rose vertically to clear the wall, then moved off slowly and horizontally out of view. He also described insulated copper cables (1.5-2 inches diameter) running between the enclosure and a small concrete structure. By the time he revisited the site after the war, all structures had been removed and the area flooded. He could name only one other crew member, Franciszek Grabowski, believed to have returned to Poland. FBI found no derogatory record on Krasuski or his wife. The file closes with a 1966 letter from the Oklahoma UFO Research/Bureau Association (O.U.F.O.B.A., Kerry Liesch, director) requesting information on local sightings, to which the FBI Detroit office replied it had no relevant information and suggested contacting the Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB.
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[PAGE 1] Department of Justice — [FILE REMOVED FROM OR ADDED TO THIS FILE] [routing/classification cover sheet with file numbers, largely stamps/markings, illegible fragments] SURNAME COMPUTER [routing stamp] NUMBER [illegible] also Nos. [illegible] COPIES [illegible] [PAGE 2] 1. Notes re: interview with WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI (rec'd 11/7/57). Page 2 [PAGE 3] [Name of contributor] [Address of contributor] By [Name of Special Agent]. To Be Returned: Yes/No [checkbox form, signature illegible] WLADYSLAW KRASUSKI [PAGE 4] [No text — blank/image page] [PAGE 5] [No text — blank/image page] [PAGE 6] Page 6 [PAGE 7] Record Request FD-125 (5-27-55). Birth / Credit / Motor Vehicle / Death / Marriage / INS [checkboxes]. To: [blank]. Return to: [blank]. File number [blank]. Name and aliases of subject, applicant or employee & spouse. Addresses: Residence, Business, Former. Date and place of marriage (if pertinent). Race. Birth date. Birthplace. Sex: Male/Female. Age. Height. Weight. Hair. Eyes. Arrest Number. Fingerprint Classification. Criminal Specialty. Specific information desired. (See reverse side for results of check.) Page 7 [PAGE 8] FROM DIRECTOR — URGENT 11-6-57 5:40 PM. TO: SAC, DETROIT. WALTER SKI [KRASUSKI], [address] CAMPAU, DETROIT, MICHIGAN, ADDRESSED LETTER DATED NOVEMBER FOURTH TO ROBERT CUTLER, WHO IS SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT, STATING QUOTE I MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE ROCKET IN TEXAS. I HEARD ABOUT IT ON THE POLISH RADIO PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO WHOM I COULD SPEAK TO. UNQUOTE. IMMEDIATELY INTERVIEW KRASUSKI FOR ANY INFORMATION HE MAY HAVE. BUFILES REFLECT NO INFORMATION RE KRASUSKI. SUITEL. END ACK PLS. OK FBI DE JH. NW90290 DocId:34714592 Page 8 [PAGE 9] [Badly degraded scan, largely illegible — appears to be a memo referencing a business address and the interview subject] Bureau (Route) [illegible] 11/[15]/57 Detroit (100-26505). NW 90290 DocId:34714592 Page 9 [PAGE 10] [Continuation of narrative account, describing the wartime incident]: A guard appeared and talked briefly with the German driving the tractor, who waited five to ten minutes, after which the noise stopped and the tractor engine was restarted normally. Approximately [some] hours later, in the same wooded area, a short distance away from the road where the work crew was cutting [timber], he surreptitiously — because of the German in charge of the crew and SS guards patrolling the otherwise deserted area — observed a circular enclosure approximately 100 to 125 yards in diameter, protected from viewers by a tarpaulin-type wall approximately 50 feet high, from which a vehicle seemed to slowly rise vertically to a height sufficient to clear the wall and then to move slowly horizontally a short distance out of his view, which was obstructed by nearby trees. This vehicle, observed from approximately 500 feet, was described as circular in shape, 75 to 100 yards in diameter, and about 14 feet high, consisting of dark gray stationary top and bottom sections, five to six feet high. The approximate three-foot middle section appeared to be a rapidly moving component producing a continuous blur similar to an aeroplane propeller, but extending the circumference of the vehicle as far as could be observed. The noise emanating from the vehicle was similar but of somewhat lower pitch than the noise previously heard. The engine of the tractor again stalled on this occasion, and no effort was made by the German driver to start the engine until the noise stopped, after which the engine started normally. Insulated metal, possibly copper, cables one and one-half inch to two inches in diameter, on and under the surface of the ground, in some places covered by water, were observed on this and previous occasions, apparently running between the enclosure and a small concrete column-like structure between the road and enclosure. This area was not visited by Krasuski again until shortly after the end of World War II, when it was observed the [installations] had been removed and the previous locations of the concrete structure and the enclosure were covered by water. Krasuski stated he has not been in communication since 1945 with any of the work crew of 16 or 18 men, consisting of Russian, French, and Polish POWs, who had discussed this incident among themselves many times. However, of these, Krasuski was able to recall by name only Franciszek Grabowski, no address known, described as then about 30 years of age and presumed by Krasuski to have returned to Poland after 1945. NW90290 DocId:34714592 Page 10 [PAGE 11] This report is loaned to you by the FBI, and neither it nor its contents are to be distributed outside your agency. NW90290 DocId:34714592 Page 11 [PAGE 12] 11/7/57. FBI. [Caption]: (100-26505) [FLYING OBJECTS] IS-X. Detroit. Airtel to Bureau, 11/7/57, captioned FLYING OBJECTS; IS-X. Interview of WLADISLAW aka WALTER KRASUSKI, reported in [prior report], copies of which are enclosed herewith for the Bureau, was conducted by [agent]. No indication of irrational or otherwise abnormal behavior by KRASUSKI was observed during the interview. KRASUSKI advised that his communication was directed to Mr. CUTLER rather than to President [Eisenhower] after seeing Mr. CUTLER's picture and identification with the President's Office in a local paper. KRASUSKI resides with his wife, née [surname illegible], married in 1952 at Detroit, and four small children, in a single residence in an old Polish neighborhood at [address] Campau Avenue, Detroit. No previous record located in Detroit indices identifiable with KRASUSKI or his wife. On 11/7/57, WILLIAM RECINAGKL, Manager, advised SA PAUL DESMOND that records of the Mich. Merchants Credit Association reflect only credit inquiries concerning WALTER KRASUSKI during 6/56 and [illegible] and 6/57, which contain his local address and employment. Page 12 [PAGE 13] NW90290 DocId:34714592 Page 13 [PAGE 14] Kerry Liesch, Director; Bob Stamps, Co-Director. 3539 N.W. 53rd / 5024 N.W. 20th, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. October 2, 1966. FBI Office, 913 Federal Building, Detroit, Michigan. Dear Sirs: My organization would appreciate any information that you could send us on Unidentified Flying Objects, specifically those sightings in your area in early spring of this year. We will greatly appreciate any information that you could send us on this subject. I thank you for your time, and co-operation. Sincerely: Kerry Liesch, Director, O.U.F.O.B.A. KKL/lw. OCT [stamp] FBI - DETROIT Page 14 [PAGE 15] Detroit Office, Detroit, Michigan (October [7], 1966). Mr. Kerry Liesch, Director, The Oklahoma UFO [Research] Association, 3539 N.W. 53rd, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Dear Mr. Liesch: This is to acknowledge your letter of October [2], 1966. Please be advised that this office does not have the information you requested. It is suggested that the United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio, may be the proper agency to contact. Very truly yours, Paul B. [surname illegible]. cc: Addressee; Detroit (100-26505). Special Agent in Charge. Page 15
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Source: U.S. Department of War / AARO — public domain · war.gov/ufo