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[PAGE 1] 62- H0~3894 BilS 53-100 I it lW 3-100 11 11 IIll1 11 11 111 11 lil llli ll ll lil m11 11 RRP0031XH I DONOT DUTROY a:::r-.- I f.3/re Cl ca FBI CENTRAL RECORDS CENTER HQ HEADQUARTE RS -l3SS Case Sub Vol Scnal 83894 53 100 11 12 74197 [PAGE 2] Office Memorandum uNJ To Director FBI Attention Assistant Director LADD DATE A 1947 FROM SAC San Francisco SUBJEC fr LTING DISCS Reference is made to my letter to the Bureau dated July 28 1947 entitled as above forwarding a copy of a report f'urnished to me by Lieutenant Colonel DONAU SPRINGER Fourth Air Force Hamilton Field California set ting forth the results of inquiries made by his office concerning the reported &ightings of flying discs As ot further interest to the Bureau in this regard theii v--v mitted herewith ghotos~atic copies of three letters dated August 19 entitled Investigation of lyiDg Discs furnished to ma by Major WILLIA GRAHAH Deputy AC of A.rJq Air Forces Hamilton Field California who is acting in the absence of Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER enclosillg copies of reports of additional reported sightings of flying discs by persons in Oregon and Arizona together with the results of their investigations in that regard It is noted that these investigations were conducted prior to the time Bureau instructions were issued that our own Bureau would conduct inquiries into the reported sightings of flying discs Copies of these reports a.re being forwarded to ortl and Phoenix Offices for the completion of their files in connection with this subject BMKaemb Enclosures oc Portland with enclosures Phoenix with enclosures OCT [PAGE 3] [PAGE 4] ANOARO f"OAM NO 6-4 Office Me TO nm.ECTOR SAC NEi'fARK SU BJE CT LYING DISC H.EPOR'.IED AT orandum UNITED DATE August 13 194 HACKENSACK NEW JERSEY AUGUST 1947 1USCELLA.NEOUS Reference is made to tne teletYPe from the Newark Division to tne Bureau dated August 194'7 stating tnat a Flying Disc had been repo ted to een seen at HacKens;st!New Jersey on August last by one CHARLES ELIA JR and VILLIAJ UEX CHARI.E0 CASELIA JH 287 Euclid Avenue Hackensack upon interview by Special Agent AR'IHUR WILLIAMS of this Division stated that on Au~st he had been standing with WILLIAM IRUEX a soldie stationed at Fort Dix obser ving a 11 ham 11 radio rig atop a two-story house on Simons Avenue Hackensack It was approximatel 7:45 and tney were in this vicinity for he purpose of meeting IRUEX girli ieno one JOYCE Mc FA!t.IAND IRUEX commented to CASELIA that a chi had apparently lost its balloon ASELLA looked and about a block or a hal1 lock away noticed a rouna black object moving from south to north and east of the stop wnere he and IRUEX were standing CASELIA noticed tnat it was moving too fast to be an ordinary balloon but he could not discern wnether it was globular in form or a disc He said it was about thirty to forty inches in diameter moving north in a hori zontal plane about two hundred yards aoove the top of the nill at Sumnu.t Avenue and Simons Avenue I proceeded at a steady ra~e ellll.tted rio rays and was moving fast enougn to reqUl.I'e tnem to turn tneir heads steadily in order to follow it IRUEX girlfriend came out about fifteen seconds after they first sighted it They pointed it out to her and she said that it looked like a bird on tne orizon so small It faded out of sight shortly thereafter CASELIA said that a line drawn along its apparent course of igb.t would go from the vicinity of Bentlix New Jersey to a point west of Westwood New Jersey CASE.LIA also said tna a man on tne porch across tne street also noticed it and pointea it out to tne women CASELIA said that this man seemed excited but did nothing about it CASELLA said tna he was positive it was no optical illusion He was not facing into tne sun and saw tne object clearly He also said tnat ne would have thought no~ning of it except ror the speed at which it was traveling UIOORD A.F1f EMC XE 194 62- I i coPrEs DES ntf:l ED NOV 18 1~o4 [PAGE 5] [PAGE 6] Ult ter to Bureau August 13 1947 Miss OY CE Mc FARIAND 476 Simons A venue upon interview by Special Agent WILLIAMS stated th.at the event in question occurred at about 30 on tne evening of Sunday August She said thai she was in the house when CASELIA or IRUEX ca.Lled to her She went out immediately and they pointed out the object in question She saw it just before it disappeared over tne horizon but she declared that it was in view fro that time for appro:x:i.mately one minute She said it was round and silver blue in color and appeared to be revolving She said that she did not recall making any comment that it nught have been a bird and herself had no idea of wnat it coUJ.d be In view of tne distance from which she noticed it she said tnat it could not have been more than six inches in diameter but would have been mucn larger iI she had been near to it Miss Mc FAH.IAND said that sne had never seen anything like it berore She said that across tne street the BOOTHS mother and daughter were the only people sitting on tne porcn and she herself did not notice anyone pointing toward tne ooject in question The only other person around to her knowledge was GLORIA IRUEX sister of WILLI.AM IRUEX wno remained in tne house and did not see the ooject at all Mrs WINFIELD BOOTH 459 Simons Avenue stated that she was on tne porch on tne evening in question with her mother but did not notice any unusual object in the sky nor had any man been present tnere to point out the object in question The follovdng information was received from IRUEX through interview by Special Agent H01'lARD WALDRON Private WILLIAM A IRUEX RA 12282003 Company 2nd Bat talion 47tn Infantry Regiment 9th Division Fort Dix New Jersey adVised he was born r1112 1930 at Jersey Cit.y New Jersey and completed eight and one nalf years of school He enlisted in tne United Sta tes Army on ay 29 194 His mother is Mrs CEA.CE FI~LDS of 88 Wales Avenue River Ectge Bergen County New Jersey IRU~X stated thai on Sunday August 1947 at 00 p.m he was standing outside tne home or his girlfriend Miss JOYCE llc FAH.IAND 4·18 Simons Avenue Hac1censack New Jersey accompanied by CHARLES CASELIA of 287 Euclid Avenue Hackensack New Jersey who is his sister fiance He said tnat he and CASELIA vrere looking at the radio antenna on a home near the 47 Simons Avenue address wnen they noticed an object [PAGE 7] Letter to Bureau August 13 194 about two to three feet in aiameter moving rapidly about two hundred yards off tne ground TRUEX said he tnought at first it was a child's balloon but when he noticed tnere was no wind and tne object had no strin gs to it ne decided it was sometning else He stated tne object was moving in a st ady straight patn going nortn and he said there was no exhaust or indication of any motive power ror the object lRUEX said they observed tne obj ct for fifteen or twenty seconds He could not give a description 01 tne object's color or tne materiai it was composed of but said it looked more like a large flat child's cup tnan anything else he could think or as the object was oval on the top and came to a point on tne bottom side IRUEX said tna CASELLA stated 11 Maybe j,t's a flying saucer 11 He said he nad never seen any thing move through the air quite like this object and he had no idea where it came from lRUEX sta~ea tha neither ne nor CASEIJA had had anytnin to drink and there was sufficient light for tnem to observe tne ob ject very clear Th.e 11 Fly1ng Disc 11 was reported try CASELIA to Sergeant JA ES PERONE of tne Hackensack Police Department Sergeant PER NE advised tne writer tnat his Department had taken no further action nor had they received reports of the object in question from any other source It may be noted that no other Police De artment in ne v:i.cmivy has brought to tne attention oi this ivision any information regardin is matter [PAGE 8] lbL IUREAU tf lll0ll6Afltll OlfAITIUf IUSfa Cftl llh SR1111 AUG 947 TELETYPE FBI DETROIT 08 PM EST MRECTOR FB I URGENT I A legit Mr Qla,tn Mr Ladd Mr Ntrhol Mr Rosen Mr Tran Mr 111,ian Mr 0..rllt>B Barbo JOH UNSUBS RAYMOND EDWA,Y AN.0 MRS LAURJ ANE INFORr!ATNTS Dl_SC I SC I NFO RECE I VED FROM DOW CHEMICAL COMPANY I DL ANB- I CH I GAN THAT ON JULY TEN LAST RAYM ND Ent ARD LANE AN EMP OYEE OF DOW AND UBSIDIARY SINCE ABOUT NINETEEN WENTY TWO BROi SO!'~E t'ftf MATERIAL TO THEIR PHYSICS ABORATORY STATING THA ABOU FI EE EEN PM LY NINE LAST HE AND WIFE AURA ANE WERE WA KING I A FIELD OWNED BY DOt AND ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET AWAY HEARD A PUFF NOISE URNED ll AND SAW A BA LL WHITE ABOUT THE IZE OF A BUSHE BAKET BURNING ABOUT A FOOT OFF HE GROUND HE FIRE DIED OUT I MMEDIATE LY AND LANE ATE COOPED UP A THREE I NCH AREA OF FUSED SAND I NTO A CAN AND TOOK TH IS TO THE PHYSICS AB BOTttieettP-LA I NANTS I NTERVIEWED RAYMOND Tl±lfNG UB STANTIA LY SAME ST ORY BUT I FE RELUCTANT TO TA LK AND VERY I NDEFIN I TE ON WHAT HAPPENED HERE ARE MAKRED DI SC REPANCIE I THEIR STORY DOW AUTHOR ITI ES CO NSIDERED STORY FAN AST I BUT HAVE EXAM I NED MATERIAL AND STATE CONTENTS TO BE ORDINARY AND NOT RADIO ACTIVE BUT GIVING RECORD OFF AMMON I A GAS A SMALL SI LV ER NUGGE1 AL MOT Xf_JT FOR I SED IN I NOT RADIO ACTIVE MELTED AND Wl{Ic OF vn AMMONIA ODOR AND LITTLE DROPLETS OF SILV ER ttE1.IJ;i,:D ND AND SOME OTHER GRAYISH COLOR I MATERIA WHICH I RADIO ACT LEVEL OF RAD I ACT I VITY EXTREMELY LOW AND EMPLOYEE MER OYED BY GOV RN MET AT LO A AMO PROJEC ST A ES USED AND AS OME CHARACTERISIC vtJl [PAGE 9] i ll jl,I nm:>3S 7VNij3.t:i4 Hd tJZ I OE [PAGE 10] PAGE TWO OF LOS ALAMOS SAND BUT NOT BELIEVED TO BE THE SAME RAYMOND LAND KNOWN TO HAVE IN HIS POSSESSION SMALL QUANTITY OF LUMINOUS PAINT RADIO ACTIVE TO BE AN AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHER TO HAVE LIM I TED KNOWLEDGE OF CHEMIS RY AND PHYSICS FROr EMPLOY ENT AT DOW LAND DESCRIBED AS VERY PECU IAR SURtLY ANTAGON I STIC TO PLANT PROTECTION OFFICERS I NTERESTED IN PHOTOGRAPHY AND ELECTRICITY LANE IS WHITE BORN MAY SEVEN NINETEEN NAUGHT TWO AT fREESO IL MICH I GAN FIVE FEET NINE AND ONE HA LF ONE HUNDRED FORTY FIVE POUNDS DARK BROWN HA I PARTLY BA LD SERVED US ARMY NINETEEN EIGHTEEN TO NINETEEN TWENTY THREE CONVICTED NINETEEN TWENTY FOUR MID AND COUNTY MICHIGAN FOR BURGLARY SERVING SIXTY DAY SENTENCE NEITHER PARTY ADMITS STORY IS A PRANK BUT ANE HAS MENTIONED FLYING DISCS AND ROCKET ON INTERV I EW LANE WAS RELUCTANT TO DI SCUSS MATTER AND NEITHER HE NOR HIS WIFE ARE ABLE TO OCATE THE EXACT OCATION WHERE MATERIAL WAS FOUND ARMY AI FORCES I NTELLIGENCE AT SE FRIDGE FIELD MICHIGAN HAVE BEEN ADV I SED SUTEL IF BUREAU DESIRES MATERIAL FORWARDED TO FBI ABORATORY FOR EXAM I NAT I ON CONNOR CORRECT I ON LI NE ONE WORD FOUR SHOU LD RAXXX READ ANE END PM OK FBI WASH DC Lnoorntonr r:Y [PAGE 11] Vfo i'£L£7Y Pc HiT A ue io PH I a i./Hn:13s 7~N~3J.N Hd I Ot dl 031at3:,3 [PAGE 12] STANl>AR FO RM NO 114 6}pce Memorandum UNITED STA OVER MENT TO Mr Ladd FROM Co,no SU BJ EC lfflKNOWN SOBJEC?:",S Ra,mond Edvar~e Mrs Laura ume Informants FLYING DISC MISCELLANEOUS There is attached a memorandum setting forth the pertinent information receiTed the Detroit Office troll.R81]110nd Edvard Lane and Mrs Laura Lane relat1Te to t~ing discs RECOMMENDATION It ie recommended that this aater1al be personally d.el1Tered the Liaison Section to the appropriate contact the War Department [PAGE 13] I I I [PAGE 14] I I August a 1947 FLYmG DISCS Ini'o:nnation was received fl-om the n>w Chemical Company lfidlona Michigan that on July 10 194 one m:md »3:ward Lane an loyce of Dow Chem.cal Company since about 1922 brouetit some mater to theu J'hy:sics laboratory He stated that about 15 July he and h1.s wife Leura were l'ralking in a ield when they heard a pll.ff noise about one hundred feet e:vrgy ThEU turned and saw ball of -white about the size of a b.lshel basket blming appr(>ximate'.cy a foot ott of the fll'OU.lld The fire died out immediately and later Lane scooped up a three inch areu of l\iaod eand into a can tor examination at -their labora1:,<>u Upan irtterv:Lew t,y FBI Aeents nd told subetantio;Lly the sam.a story blt lira Lane was reluctant to talk and rveey indefin1 te o.bou.t what hnppcned There were marked discrepancies in thoir stories Lbw authorities oonsidered the story- tantastic but have exailltned the mateial and state contents ares ordinary and not radio active rut gt'Ving orr amm:>nia caoJ a StlalJ silver nugget nlir.ost pure excep1 for sand m.xcd in it not radio active molted or fused eand ffllioh gives off ru:imonia odor and little droplets of silver melted in sand and soI!le gr~sh color caterial which is radio active The level of radio activity this znaterinl is ext.rei:iely low An emplczy-ee of Dow formerly employ,ed by the Oovern.men.t at Los Alanxls Project stated tho fused B£Uld luus some characteristics of Los Alnnx:,s sand but he does not believe it the same Raym:,nd Lane ia lmom to have in his possesSion a quantity of luJiilnouo pa1nt radio active to be an llr.lateur photographer and to have a limited knowledge of chem!.ctry and Ph;;lfaics He io described na very peculiar aurl antagonistic to plant protection o.rticars and interested ill photography and olectric1ty Lane ie rrhito wns b::>ni 1902 at Freesoil W.ohigan 11 He is weighs 145 pounds has dark brown he.:l.r porlly bald served in the Ar.:qr trow 1918 to 1923 He was arrested for hlrglary in Midland County W.chigan in 1924 for which ho served a sixty day sentence Noithc:r Rnyllt)nd Lane nor hts wife w.l.11 admit their story is a prank ver neither ai.·e able to point out tho exact location of thts incidsit The -ArJSU Airforce Intelligence at Solf'ridge Field Ui.ohigan has been ed and the material has been turned over to them RGF mae fiJ [PAGE 15] I fEQU iilUAU OF fllV£STlilAtfON OUAITMEKT Of WSTICE CDMMUNtCATIONS SEGTION FROM CGO 8-8-47 800 PM llr 14 CTO l\Ue tf SE CUR I TY MAIER rLYING DISC SIGHTED BY MRS ROBE ITTLE CHICAGO HERALD AMERICAN TODAY REP.ORTED THAT LITTLE Of SIX THREE TWO SEVEN HARPER AVENUE CHICAGO REPORTED SEEING A DISC THREE THIRTY AM TODAY SAILING ABOVE LAKE MICHIGAN OFF JACKSON PARK BEACH LITTLE UNAVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEW TODAY FATHER IN LAW JOSEPH REINER SIX THREE TWO SEVEN HARPER AVENUE ADVISED LITTLE SIGHTED DISC OVER A MONTH AGO AND SHE IS EIGHTEEN YEARS OF AGE NO FURTHER INQUIRY CONTEMPLATED MC SWAIN DRRlll:lllN END ACK I [PAGE 16] I I [PAGE 17] Office Me UNITED DATE 1/47 LAll!J PROM lv,n E.G Fi Ladd A i SUBJECT Fl.YING SAliCERS t,,,,,,n v.r rr Colonel Carl Golbranson of the Intelligence Divisjon of the 1ar Department advised Special Agent Reynolds of the Liaison Section that 1ole Ro a the ar Department has received telegram dated ew Yor New York uly Ill oa lltss ealJm a 11 IL!SS Gan<ly 11 FOP FUR:J.HE DETA ILS CONCE:!JNING FLYING IS UGGEST Il.~IA1E CONTACT OF MR RICHARD SHAVER LILY LA KE ILLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE TI@O TANT Il!FORW TIC~1 CONCE:R ING HEIR ORIGilJ 11 Colonel Golbranson furnished Reynolds with a copy of the memorandum Lrr entitled Report on Flying Saucers dated July 1947 addressed to Corru:ianding General 32d A.AF Baso Unit Bolling Field l,ashington from Joh Schindler Jr a copy of which is attached to this me:rorandum lhe attached memorandum sets forth information and statistics regarding two reportings of incidents of flying disks here is also attached hereto a map of the Illinois River area which -was furnished to Ur Reynolds by Colonel Golbranson Colonel Golbranson stated that according to this map the incidents reported in the attached memorandum are in the general vicinity of Lily Lake which was given as the address of Mr Richard Shaver in the anonyJ:1ous telegram received by the War Deparilnent Colonel Golbranson advised that in view of the fact that the observation of the flying saucers was made.on July 7th and the date of the unsigned telegram is July 5th together with the proximity of Lily Lake to the points where the objects were observed he desired the Bureau conduct some investigation of Shaver to det~rmine whether or not he has any information pertaining to the origin of the flying saucers Mr Reynolds advised Colonel Golbranson that his request would be made known to you and the results of any investigation would be brought to his attention RECO:M:~~A TION It is recommended that the field be directed to make inquiries regarding Shaver and if deemed advisable interview him regarding any information that ne has relative to flying disks Ihe results of any investigation should be forwarded to the Liaison Section for delivery to the Intelligence Division of the war Depart ment Attachments S.'ffi:AJB nrf>'ID?Wm [PAGE 18] SAC Chicago ll August 1947 Di rector FBI FLIIN mscs The ar Department has furnished this lhreau ffi th telegram dated July at New York Yorks P'OR FURTHER E.T AILS CONCERNING FLYING DISKS SIJGGES llWEDIATE CONrACT OF t.m RICHARD SHAVER LILY LAKE IDINOIS WHO 1!AY HAVE Il!PORTAl:r INFORMATION COIJCERN nlG THEIR ORIGIN The War D3partment has 1\i:mished a meUX>randum entitled Report on Flying Saucers dated July 1947 addressed to Commanding General J2d AAF Base Unit Bolling Field Uashington from John Schindler Jr two copies of which a.re attached The 1ar Department has stated that the incidents refer.red to in the attached memorandum are in the general vicinity of Li Lake which was gtven as the address of Ric hard Shaver the above telegram It is therefore desired that the Chicago Field Di vision conduct appropriate inquiries regarding Shaver and in the event such inquiries do not reveal information indicating that he should not be interviewed he should be interrogated for any infomntion he might have relative to flying discs It is desi'red that this matter be handled as soon as possible and the Blreau promptly advised J!hclosur HGF:mae llr l'olaon llr,E,A m~n llr Rosen llr Tr ac.c 19 Mr Har bo llr ll hr Mr enn ington wr Qui nn Ta."1111- -r.l Ro om llr Nease Ill Rs andy [PAGE 19] STAN OARD FOR NO 64 Offii Memoranuum UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT 16 July 47 TO FBI DA.TE FROM WDGS US BRANCH SUBJ ECT RICHARD SHAVER Attached hereto a Copy of unsigned t~legram received by HQ AAF July 1947,in which it is indicated that Richard Lilly Lake Illinois may have in formation concerning the origin of tlie fl in saucers Copy of a report on flying saucers which were observed by four witnesses while in flight in two airplanes over southern Wisconsin Map with indications es to pro:xillli.ty of the locations where the flying saucers were reported to have been seen in relation to Lily Lahl,Ill that the time In view of the fact/the observation of the flying saucers was llll!lde corresponds closely with the date of the unsigned telegram and considering the proximity of Lily Lake to the points where the objects were observed it is requested that Mr ShaveR be investig~t3d to determine whether or not he has information pertaining to the origin of Flying Saucers RBED et tl=w if Li 1947 I [PAGE 20] NL PD NEWYCRK NY JUL MAJOR PA YNOR AAF HQTS WASHDC FOR FURTHER DETAII.S CONCERNillG FLYING DISKS SUGGEST IMMEDIATE CONTACT OF MR RICHARD SHAVER LILY LAKE ILLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE mMPORTANT INFORMATION CCNCPlillING THEIR ORIGilJ UNSIGNED 651P CLOS [PAGE 21] SJ Cammand.1 Geaeral 32d AA1 Baae Unit Bollug Jt1eld Wuhi~n J-olloving t11Uos regardin r&Porta tour w1-tne•aH while ill flight in two a1rplane1 Wu.\her tu T1a1bUit e:mept1onalq good Soat ered alt.awmlua 6ooo teet ftnt repor"talilile 1145 hour OS Alt of oueff91"9 800 fM &NW grcnra4 Altil:a.u et ltooo ett Kli.e Olta~periM fibt lgb.tecl 1.-aNcGJMntC W1aoliuta F.l.1pt vu o'ba tr.a or S.almtJMIIII le mldlon ■oona1a flda tll&llt ooftl'ecl 25 1111 1111'11 15 aeooJMla -1.oJl a apee4 fd ix lh- iooo all how- l'~a flllll 1430 Jao'lll'II ce A.1.•ttade ot o'baU'Te1'9 t1'Sr17-ttw lmll4r.a 3500 41.ttnu ot ameer tva~tlft ma4N4 fNI 2,00 Ollaer,a\loa perle4 Okenen at llaa tr.7 WiaoonaSa fll&)lt euerwd hell Alcl Vl■ oonala MMno Wuoonallk 1'h11 fii&bt oo'ftnCl tWllt,'-tw 22 1111 la"'- 20 aeoonaa lid.GIi a 11,11 thr --8114 a1ae Jatrel a1XV 96o au per lunar nl&bt -....nva1 nut ba~loa-aano c.a.ed TerUoaJ.l» altooaal olouu etoppecl at to-a tillCNHIIA 4ooo feet and hutantal poe lUon 11114 pl"Ooeeded la llorlson,a1 tU&k trom a bortzeaW po ltloa f•r tilt 15 a400i'de oo"NZ'ing hentJ tift 25 all and ap1n lopped a1l4 41-,pearea a eocan.t obeenaUoaa ObaerTed in horizontal tllpt a JlartsoaW att1'11A for a period ot 20 eoonla oo twa'7-1w 22 Uee- the tt the pilot had raoftl bl■ 08IMl"a froa glne oollpanllmt ot plane Uae 1auoer Uaappea.recl aDl1 acah reappear- appron-.,e17 10 1111 tanher al OOUl"N after ah aeoonu M!rt-i« lta tiaal ell &ppeal'a,1Mse l)a.i firat tvo oh•"nn were iu\rulor and a tuat ha"fiDc Jaal aka ott troll Jllldaora l.trpon oocm4 ho ob■ enwa cme ¥J1c a Wlq la.p:plT OttlNr 11114 a paweager f;NCI.O SURE JoJin fttwll MAJ AJ:r Ool'jlll AAY-QAP lalaoa Ottie [PAGE 22] 308 I ow Le Rov 265 as Joins 264 Lambert Conformal Conir tion N4000-W8500/400X800 ORLD AERONA.UTICAL CHAR'l 308 Standa:d Parallels 33° and 45° 1,000,000 400 Statute 390 Miles 380 360 aao 320 290 210 700 HO uo 00 so 80 so 40 30 Statute Miles Joins 266 93° Joitu 265 I I I West Concord I I I I Rt•d Cit I I i I I heboygan I I I I I I £LEVATIONS IN F£ET I I I I iJ I I I I I TRMR Dysart Is Walker Williamsburg Ti ton ort Washington DHR ilwaukee ENERAL TCHEL TOW 27 67!f Lf ORLICl<>RACINE la cine I I I I I TWIN TY 1.11l111ii Bremen SOJ.I NO 215 SN Howe Cars City I I I I ao Fairbur Gen~v Rassvill LA FA Alvi 40° 40 46 10 308 Statute Miles PRICE 25 CENTS 20 92° 30 so Date of magnetic information 947 C9nsu!I Civil Aeron dministraUon Notices for changes o,c nronautical data on this chart after 12 1946 70 80 91° so 00 90"(Joins359 uo 100 so Compiled at Washington by the Coast Geodetic Survey under authority of the Secretary of Commerce for civil aviation and by direction of the lmanding General Army Air Forces for the Aeronaut,c~I Chart Service MARCK 1945 R;Jvised MAY 1946 BASE HO Illiopolis 80 so 200 Oana seal Chrisman Hammond no 30 so 60 NOTE It is requested that persons usin11 this chart indicate correction ond additions which coi;ne to thelr<attention and notify HIE DIRECTOR U.S COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY WASKINGTON 25 D.C Danville 300 3'0 co,n o,oo,t« u,vn w""'"••o 330 340 3SO N4000-Wssoo14ooxsoo SCALEl:1 000 000 THJRD fto>f 360 370 380 Statute 390 Miles ILLINOIS RIVER UNITED STATES 400 308 [PAGE 23] AEHO;-..;ACTICAL SY).lBOLS LANDPLANE FACILITIES SEAPLANE FACILll lES LANOPLANE BASE MILITARY COMPLEH FACOL!TJUi SEAPLANE BASE MILITARY coo,il'Ln F"CU.ITIE LANOPL/>.t!E 8-ASE CIVIL COMP LEU PA<:JuT,n SEAPLANE BASE CIVIL ITl£8 J:j SEAPLANE SASE- JOINT MILITARY COMPL!:TE PACILITIES LANDPLANE AIRPORT CIVIL SEAPLANE AIRPORT MILITARY REFUELING u,.,TEO RErAIR -ACILITIES REFUELING IMlT£0 REPAIR FACE FLIGHT STRIP UMITEO OR NO c,uTtU SEAPLANE AIRPORT CIVlL REFUELING LIMIHO REP;.IR PACH ITlES LANQlr,IG FJELD LIM!T£0 011 NO FACll.!TIES OR LOGlSTIC SEAPLANE AIRPORT JOINT MILITARY Cl VIL INFORMATION OT AVAILABLE EFUELt,.G L!M!TEO EP,.IR FACIL,TEES SEAPLANE EMERGENCY ANCHORAGE_J L,MtTEC·O FACILITIEII Olt GIS'rlC O~MAT>ON -OT AV,.tLA8LE THE L[NG1H OF LONGEST RUNWAY IN FEET IS INDICATED BY THE INNER CIRCLE OF EACH SY+OL THUS 2500-3499 3,500-4499 4500-54~9 5500-6500 OVER 6500 LENGTH lNKNOWN LIGHTING FACILITIES AVIATION ROTATING BEACON OBSTRUCTION Ll(;HT AVIATION ROTATING BEACON WITH COURSE LIGHTS NIGHTI IGHTING FACIL TY AV ATION ROTATING BEACON WITH CODE BE/ICON LIGHTS-- 0"·01RECT10"-'A URHCE I SA.c AVIATION LASHING BEACON LIGHTSHIP AVIATION BEACON FLASHING CODE F-f>~ed Fl-llashtng Occ-occult,ng Alt- lte,nafng Go-grou11 R-red A ernating 1,gh!s a red a,·.•I wo,te n,e etw ate W-whi(e G-g,een 8-blue Sec-sector Lights are wh,te unless colors a stated -le ill ot l1g above sh waler MOORING MAST LINES OF EQUAL MAGNETIC VARIATION A[R NAVIGATION HAZARDS DANGER A AIRPORT APPROACH AND TRAFFIC ZONES -Airport traff,c zone Aorporr approa zone BLUE 25 CIVIL AIRWAY RADIO RANGE COURSES QUADRANTS ARE IOE TLFIEO av LIN£ ON DE R~NGE LE II RADIO FAN MARKER RAOIOBEACON NON-DIRECTIONAL 3:4 RADIO RANGE FACILITY 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ney 11 I I 1192 A ms 1706 lJOO 1707 60 lJ rn 114 l7'2 I i 177l 167 I 1782 1187 1814 1812 Bil 170° lJ 140 BO l20 110 100 80 70 60 50 40 30 20 10 1743 1144 ms 20 l/4f 50 l/47 1749 16$ 10 JJ I ST.H.H An~,n ac I Co I s39 532 VOl{Ll AERONAPTICAL CII,\-I{'r INDEX DRAll'\AGE FEATl'RES RELIEF FE.\TUHES S(';ale of SPi:if's 1:1.000.000 LARG RIVER STREAMS Cl\·11 ARTS l'T'l.Y PE£NNAI GLACIER CONTOUR POT ElEV'''"N C/.INAL Authorized agents for th sale of aerona'utical chart have boon appointed at certain airports throughout the United States for the distribution uf aeronautical charts A fo1t of these agents with the dates of latest i I prints of charts will be printed from time to time in the Weekly Notice to Airmen This information may also WASH& INTERMITTENT STREAMS -!70'f fi SU NAI SWAMP be obtained from the Director U.S Coast and Geodetic Survey I APP'ROXlMJI.TE CONTOURS Requ.st for chart TIHI nl,;o hem I tu the D1n·ctor Coast ana GPorJ.,11c Surve Washingt SAND AREA llr SANO DUNES 01 authorized l!!r DRY LAKE MUI OR TIDAL FLAT A discount U-1/3 from full published prices is allowed on aeroniiutica and auxiliary charts amoun ing DEPRESSION ONTOURS to $10 gross when made in one shipment to one address Charts are not returnable 1--::_--.?0QO DA-NGER CURVE TERMITTENT LAKE i BLUFF CLIFF OR ESCARPMENT CHARTED ROCKS IJILlTAHY CHART SUPPLY tRef AAF Reg 65-82 dated 26 Apr 1944 I Aeronautical charts maps and publications distributed by Aeronautical Chart Service are indexed or Ii in the current edition of the AAF Catalog of Aeronautical Charts and Related Publicalions Misc«llaneo\l1 maps and chart not appearing in the Catalog will be procured and furnilihed by Aeronautical Chart Senicc through gpecial order whfm 8llfficiPntl identified in rcqufaitions as to name or nu·mber scale projection and publisher if known LARGE CITY CL-LTlTRAL FEATURES Iwquisitioning a Outside Continental United States I AAF activities are to submit reqlllsitions to the supply facility designated by the Theater Commander for msintenance and distribution of aeronautical charts and maps I cny eou:-.ioARY S.t:\1 OR INTERNATIONAL BOIJ.NDARY PARK OR RESERVATION Rl\lLROAO RAILROAD H•tULT[PI TRACKS Seale 1:1.000,000 or inch 5.8 mjles llO Ktlomettrs Theater supply fa"ciliiies are to submit requisitions for replenishment of stocks of aero nautical charts and maps through channels to Headquarters AAF Aeronautical Chart Service Washington Within Continental United States Requisitions from AAF activities within Continental United States are to be submitted to appropriate Regional Store as shoWil on AeronautiC1>i Chart Supply System geographic diagram in AAF OR TOWN OR VILLAGE PROMINENT LANDMARK W•Tf HP,ANATO-- SOTE 9975 DAM DAM WITH OCK HIGHEST ELEVATION ON CHART RAILROAD IABANOONrn TUNNEL JRAILl<oAIII RAILROAD OVERPASS 20 so 40 so so Nautical Miles BO Motes Aeronautics Chart Catalog Except when emanating from an Air Force Wing or Command Headquo.rters requisitions are to bear the signature or approval by indorsement of the Base or Station Operations Officer Quantities charts and maps requested are to be sur.h as to assure the maintenance of a 30-day 1pply at all times but not to exceed a 60-dny supply Obsolete Charts MINE OR QUARRY OKOUl owER 1540 SPOT LEVATION RANGER STAflON FEE I +--+-fl-+--t- RAILROAD lll'iDERPASS HIGHWAY MAt II TEI a Aeronautical hart rendered obsolete-for-ail by a,re rised ldition hen not prac1it:"uble to cor ect for nf with new edition are to be salvaged if feasible or else destroyed D;ijposjtion by II Iv or de~t Hction to be 11ccordance with provision 380·5 mity in LOA ARD STATLON BRIDGE RO TUNN [PAGE 24] I Mr Tolaou IUll(AU OF INY TIC Tin Ir Ii A Tamm IUAITIEJIT 01 JI Jllr lei:g IGATIOls M,r C::lavw Mr l..udd l\lr Nie-hots fr Rosp A 1947 Mr 1'r~y Mr littan Mr Onntea lllr Hulto lllr Mohr Mr FBI SEATTLE 8-6-47 7-13 PM PST Mr KLS Mr 53 DIRECTOR FBI URGENT SA w~z FLYING D_!§CS RETEL PORTLAND TO DIRECTO tff\v vv AND SEATTLE AUGUST FIVE LAST I NTEL LIGENCE OFFICERS MCCORD FIELD WN ADVISE THAT IN THEIR OPINION AND FROM THEIR INVESTIGATION THERE IS NO QUESTION OF THE CRASH OF THE TWENTYFIVE AT KELSO WN I APPROXIMATELY TWO FIFTY A AUGUST ONE LAST HAVING BEEN CAUSED BY ANY SABOTAGE THEY STATE THEIR INVESTIGATION INDICATES THE LEFT ENGINE BURNED OUT AN EXHAUST STACK WHICH CAUSED THE WING TO BURN AND BREAK OFF THE LEFT IN AS IT BROKE OFF TORE OFF THE TAIL AND THE PLANE CRASHED INTO THE GROUND KILLING CAPT DAVIDSON AND LT BROWN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS OF THE FOURTH AIR FORCE WHO WERE RETURNING FROM MCCORD FIELD WN TO HAMILTON FIELD CALIFIORNIA THE CREW CHIEF AND A HITCHHIKER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY ROM THE PLANE ONLY FOUR MEMBERS WERE ABOARD THE PLANE DAVIDSON AND BROWN BEING PILOT AND CO- PILOT AND HAD NO CHANCE TO ESCAPE WHEN THE WING BROKE OFF LT COL DONALD SPRINGER TIIO AW &~bJJ.;,~Fi THE FOURTH AIR FORfq HAMILTON FIELD CALIFORNIA ADVISED-T AP'TAIN DA1.t;1DSSfN AND ROWN WERE SENT FROM HAMILTON FIELD TO INT~EW lt AROLD A lf OA HL AND FRED --GRl_SMAN AT TACOMA WN REGARDING THEIR REPORT OF SEEIIING SOME FLYING DISCS OVER MAURY ISLAND WN AND THAT THEY Q~INED OME OF THE DISC FRAGMENTS CRISMAN AND DAHL ARE PARTNERS IN A LUMBIER BUSINEi!IS AT COPIE r...,c-TROYED WAHINGTON 270 NOV 18 1964 [PAGE 25] Ul II I 1.HJn 13s lVN di IO I [PAGE 26] It PAGE TWO CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LT BROWN ON THURSDAY JULY THIRTYFIRST LAST INTERVIEWED DAHL CRISMAN KENNET~NOLD FROM BOISE IDAHO WHO WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THAT REPORTED SEENING FLYING DISCS AND EMIL MITH UNITED AIRLINES P.LOT FROM SEAT'fll).U WN WHO ALSO REPORTED SEEING FLYING DISCS THIS INTERVIEW TOOK PLACE AT THE am WINTHROP HOTEL ON THE AFTERNOON OF JULY THIRTYFIRST LAST CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LT BROWN WERE RETURNING TO HAMILTON FIELD FOR AIRFORCE DAY AND HAD WITH THEM SOME OF THE DISC FRAGMENTS AS REPORTED BY DAHL AND CRISMAN IL REPORTER PA~NTZ OF TACOMA TIMES AND UNITED PRESS WIREMAN TE ELLO OF TACOMA RECEIVED ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS JULY THIRTYFIRST AND AUGUST FIRST LAST REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP HOTEL OJIER THE DISCS FRAGMENTS AND THAT THE TWENTYFIVE WHICH CRASHED THE MORNING OF 11112 AUGUST ONE WAS SABOTAGED OR SHOT DOWN INFORMATION AS YET NOT VERIFIED INDICATED THE ENTIRE STORY STARTED BY DAHL AND CRISMAN POSSIBLY TO PROMOTE SALE OF SLAG FOUND IN A GRAVEL PIT ON MAURY ISLAND WN NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE AS YET AS TO THE IDENTITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL TO THE TACOMA TIMES AND THE UNITED PRESS DAHL AND CRISMAN WILL BE INTER VIEWED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE INVESTIGATION CONTINUING WILCOX END 11-33 PM OK FBI WA GH [PAGE 27] EC IVED EL EiYP utllT II 34 PM 0.1 CE f.r JUSTIC [PAGE 28] cc 150 EDERAL BU REA OF INVESTI GAT I TED STATE DEPA RTM ENT OF JU August 14 1947 TO CO MUNICATION SEC ION SAC Seattle URGENT Transmit the ol lowing es sag REURT EL UGUST TWELVE IT IS HO FRCJI INTERROGAT I ON OF 1lU'hllITH clL Vt A SYITH GLADIS THAT DU RING HE CO NFEREN CE JULY THIRTY ONE THAT~L AN UN HR IS!.i!N Af PAR NT LY REPEATED THEIR FA LSE $T'.)RY AB0l11 THE l!ATERIAL BEING FRAGMENTS OF A FLYING DISC A ND NLY ON SATURDAY NIGHT AUGUST SEC HD DID DAHL AWIT THAT THE ST RY WAS A HOAX IF SOCH IS THE CASE IT WO ULD AP PFA EITHER S\!ITH LD ll.A DE THE ANONIKOUS PHONE CALLS SINCE THEY Tl ULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION AT THAT TDlE THAT THE i!ATERIAL FU RNISHED TO CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROWN WAS ACTUALLY AR TS A FLilNO DISC IT ULD ALS APFEA L'H.AT DAHL AND CHRISMAN DID nar ID!IT THE HOAX TO THE ARMY I!rf LUGENCE OFFIC ERS BECAUSE IF i EY HlD DON SO THE OFFICERS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE TA EN THE ALLEGED FRA<P lE NrS WITH TKru THEIR FATAL FLICHT TH I IJATTER SHO LD Bi CLEARED UP FO liEHlT ER VIE.W WITH DAHL AND CHRISllAN WHEN TlllS POINT CLlRIFIED NO FURTHER NVFSTIG A IO NECESSARY HOOVER BEQOBJ)Jill1 [PAGE 29] [PAGE 30] [PAGE 31] l!rs Arthur Dou.ala11e Anderson 16 edbury Roa.d Sp~ven Ch.eotor Pennaylv.:4nia Clfl/q ot!i l:l Oear I fX- 34 This 1'111 acknowledeo recoi pt or oi.1r lot.tor dated July 1947 Utor care1"ul reviw ot tho on tent.a or t.bis lot~r it a ascertained th in fo tion co ntalnod t.hGrein wciitd probabl,- be or int.erost to the ar Oltp..rt 11 ent t.h eretore take.'1 tt,e llbert.y or tumishln ia inroma on t.o that a nc Your i nterest in l11"it1:n as OU did is ind.God rY ncarelno ra Anderson I uMCATIONs.;.sECTI0N I A John d{:ar i oo-vor I 194k!~M Di rector f(f WVC:mjpf I ltlVES GATIO @li Jrl,.l YJf!/I here is no identi!ifiable information in the Bureq.u zl!-,;iJ l:'J files concerning the writer of this letter This letter referred to flying aauce [PAGE 32] A 11.J Haou UJM [PAGE 33] tJ rt A ff it I I I vJ [PAGE 34] -,,Y.A,,<'/.----Jf..A --,,----H--J 4es IJ- G':'6'/ri'.ir11y1.s tt flJ""l,e If I A fL-C I fCj S.::t?..J l-1uS~JLL£ Nd l.1.S1b- [PAGE 35] [PAGE 36] [PAGE 37] Ju i.\~{l::>:lS l~\n.f3.l.W 11 v\d 1.0 [PAGE 38] Mr Mr Baumgardner Mr Mr Mr Brown ND-6 SECURITY DIVISION FBI INTERNAL SECUR I TY ECTION STRICKLAND DeFORD SUPERVISORS Ackerman Mr Howe Mr Jennings Blakesley Mr Jones Bly Mr Mc Andre ws Mr Meehan Mr Casper Mr Milnes Mr Collier Mr Powe Mr Costello Mr Ranst ad Mr Donohue Mr Smith Mr Fletcher Mr Tu rner Mr Harvey Mr Whitson Mr Hayden Mr Winterrowd --.Mr MI SS RECORDS SECTION ROOM Send file Mrs Dorset 1736 Bring file up- to-date Mrs Walch 1736 Flace on Record Miss Arnold 1742 ace on Record and Miss Niedjelski 1649 Retu rn Typists 1641 Indicate index reference correct Please call me Redate Please see me ---Note and return -R"O OM-..- -~¢w:;;:a& [PAGE 39] [PAGE 40] I I I I I i I LI If MA Tw Al i I LI- I I I IV A rJ t-J tJ I t.J I I iJ I A I A A I I Lf I i I I WA I I vi A I I Lr i i I I I l,J I IJ A MS tJ I I I I Ll I I I If I I i I A i I Ni fv Ji I I I I LI I I I I I I I A rJ WL ES R:I 1--3 I I I If I I Pr rJ I LI l.J rJ i I I I I MA I It I I A I Ii A I A rJ LAT I A [PAGE 41] [PAGE 42] COUNTY IRRITANT lrom our Mail lox EE::E::::r -···-+i±±ei ulling for Decoders a~11mo1e About nine at night 011 July -Ith I recei,ed the follow Ing shortwa,e me,,:,age in code origin unknown I kept listening onct ahoul an hour later the mes sage wa repeated letter for letter I can't figure out what It means but lWl'e It ls DITEH 1-"0 NUHMA SOESNENN TWON I.ATWA IOTCIA WRA Rl'SPIDCXIT DREOR LASOR STEYMS SO STEN YLI-WG si.ro.s llAN WLIL EST UP WI.Olm DREOR NERUO TIR M.\NAS TEAL HIST ARYE -Radio Ham Nt-ilher ran we but we hope lt'a legal Ed [PAGE 43] patt wl ch other igl1t do well to copy l1crc in pi ctur es tra's president J)r costuming by J11aki11g anikin doll I lei col spccial interest in the ly-assorted a studied and hi\tori but fa~hionjhlc 1.idy tanding giving p.iins c01fforc was hO ho,,·n below doon't arranged to the le [PAGE 44] 21 ECORDED F,tJ~- &?IY A Snrbhnis 66 otro Dnne Al"ettuo fticks-villo Long Iclnnd ar York Dcnr Ura Sarba."li.s I wish to a.c~·noulodge receipt of your lotter and anclotl:iro dated July 10 1947 I have i.notructed tho Special A03nt in of our cm York OJ"tice t.o havo a Spocinl A.cent oall t:Pon you tor- tho purponc of obtaininc 1\J~bor infornation in camcct.ion v!.th tb!s r-.attor oar intcreat in calling tbis info:rcntion to r!f1 att ti on io inaood npprecintad Sincerely- youro John Roovor Director cc Novr York With There is no idcntii'iablo j.n.fomation in the files or't~e B.ircau concerning the m-i er of this letter Tho docoding of the oeasage on the nC1f8Pa,cr c~lp;;ing w,s r2fcrrcd to the Laborator-.r who subsequ8Iltly advised that the writer's decodinc was substantially correct Thero is beinG set forth bol0':7 tho ro:ru.l.ts or tho Laboratory's decoclinc TIRED OF 1-.tUW.ll NOJ:SErSE l":01-Pr AUA!T ATOl:.ITC l'lAR DISRUFTI ORDER SOLAR SYSTEM s:NT FLYII:G DISl'S AlID iTILL SCT UP WORLD ORDER trnmn RTIA'l'S UTE Tll1S YEA [PAGE 45] M.«t im JU itOllAat11]Vl!I ti 1•Ai0)l i.'1112~1 ltJ I J.IJIA I [PAGE 46] STANDARD F'ORM NO Office Memoran~um uNI ED STATES GOVERNME NT TO A TAJa DA.TB August 15 1947 llr Tolson FROM lfR J.f LADD 111 A llr La dd=-- llr Ntcho is SUBJECT wr Rosen llr Tracy Mr car so- llr Egan=- Mr urnea llr Harbo The Director advised on Aunust 14 1947 that llr IIOhr the Los Angeles papers ere carrying headlines indicating rr:~,!:- Tele Room llr Nease that Soviet espionage afents had be instructed to Mtss Ho llts s()andy determine i;he Jacts relative to th e-j lyin disc§ The article carried a ifashington date line and indicated tnat ded espionage agents rad be~n ordered to solve the question the lying discs the Russians being OJ the opinion that this might be some nez form OJ Cefense prefected by -the American Military The ar"ticle urth.er recalled that during 1,ne recern i ar pieces oj tin oil had been dropped in the air or tre purpose OJ off setting the value o.f radar being used the enemy Jorces an that these aluminum discs might be a new develo,rnent along this line i.'he Director ir,quired as to IJ!hettter the Bureau had any such information I informed him the& I had never heard of any information indicating t~at Soviet espionage agents had been ins-i;ructed to obtai,n such in/orma·iion A check witr the officiaJ.s at OllI and at the oJ I Air Corps lntell igence u)as made and it as J'ound -chat they t~t.f had no information relative to such a sto In accordance with 1,he Director inst uctions I advised lvichols char in the event any inc.tuiries A!T"e made concerning such sr;ory 1,hat the story should be flatly denied in so J'ar as the FBI i as concerned DliL i'A M_;-!i_!,f RE COR DED I AUG 19 194 [PAGE 47] J1S US [PAGE 48] STANOAM POftM NO Offi ce Memorandum NITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO DATE August 18 194 FROM SUBJECT Reference is made to your telephonic conversation with the Director on Wednesday of last week at which time the Director advised that Los Angeles papers carried under a ashington date line an article indicating the Soviet esaonage agents in the Unite States are under instruction to solve the flying discs Such instruct~ons were believed to be based on the assumpt-ton tnat tne flying discs were a secret weapon of the Anny or Navy Ihe article attributed the source of its information to a Federal investigative agency Pursuant to your instructions liaison representatives have contacted the Headquarters of 1!:i.litary Intel igence the Headquarters of the Air Forces Intelligence Office of Naval Intelligence and CIG All agencies denied any knowledge of the flying discs as well as any knowledge of the basis for this article EGF:OME RECORDED EX -29 30CT [PAGE 49] fi~c 1:-1v1:·o HE IV 1.1 I i l.14,s oN FBI vt:,:r i OF JUSf1L:c I 11 Aue 22 PM -Pl JJ ft i [PAGE 50] DATE blind memorandum setting elative to the re orted air crash of two AA officers It is recommended that a copy of this memorandum be TO Mr Ladd aft- FROM Ur Coyne SUBJECT LTING DISCS Ther are attached two copies of a forth the facts investigating flying disc complaints ffi:CC,...:MENDATION by the Ll.aison Section the Air Force Intelli genc Attachment RGF mjp [PAGE 51] [PAGE 52] SUBJE CT BUREAU DATE 8-23•47 PORTLAND I.,YINQ DISCS SECURrrY MATI'ER The following investigation was conducted at Canyonville and Myrtle Creek Oregon on August 12 1947 RAY VIRG~TFIELD Route Box 195 Roseburg Oregon operator of the Tri City Airport Myrtle Creek Oregon advised that on 8-6-47 at approximately 6115 PM while instructing a student in a take off at the airport he noticed an object east of yrtle Creek which appeared to be fro 5,000 to 8,000 feet in the air The sky was completely clear and vi ibility was excellent He stated that the object glistened and appeared to be of aluminium sheeting Upon not i cing it he had immediately taken over the controls of the plane which at that time was at 400 feet and proceeded East in an attempt to further observe the object He advised that the object appeared to be climbing and traveling East at a hi gh rate of speed which he estimated on a computer in his plane as 1,000 miles per hour He believed the object to be spherical in shape and recalled noticing a darker object to the ri ht the first ti he saw it He observed no vapor trails nor did he hear any noise from the object After s~arching the area for approximately 10 minutes HATFIEID and his student NOBLEl'ELLISON returned to the airport and made another landing and take off In practically the same position at 400 feet altitude both ELLISON and HATFIELD saw the object in approximately the same position as seen before He estimated the sphere to be 30 feet in diameter and stated when they first observed it it appeared to be so near he could fly ri ht to it However the object si hted the second time disappeared in the same manner as the first had It is noted that HATFIELD served as a Lieutenant JG in the aval Air Corps for about years flyin constantly on the Atlantic submarine patrol He is a reputable citizen in Dou las County and is reported to be a qual i fied pilot Mr NO LE LLISON yrtle Creek Oreg on verified the above information as furnished by HATFIELD statin that the first object si hted had been called to his attention when HATFIELD took over the controls of the plane at about 400 feet following his take off but that they had both si hted the object on the second take off at the same time ELLISO described the object as a silver ball or balloon which he believed to be miles east of My rtle Creek travelin East and climbing very fast until it disappeared in approximately 45 seconds ELLISO estimated the sphere as bein 50 feet in diameter and stated in his opinion the second obj ect appeared to cli strai ht up 3SEP RECORD EJ lt-jf J:}XED OPIES DESTRO 270 NOV 181964 [PAGE 53] [PAGE 54] He advised that he did not observe any evidence of motion such as vapot or trails etc and could hear no noise over the noise of hie own shi In vestigation in the vicinity of My rtle Creek Oregon has failed to reveal any other person sighting the objects re ported by HATFmLD and ELLISON No further investi gati on is being conducted PJMaMB 62-1531 [PAGE 55] F~ERAL BUREAU OF INVEST I ION 1947 The Director Mr Tolson Ladd Mr Rosen Mr Clegg Mr Glavin Mr Nichols Mr Pennington Mr Quinn Tamm Mr Tyler Mr Mr Coyne Fletcher Mr Laughlin Mr McCabe Mr Mohr Mr Nease Records Section Stamp and mail Prepare tickler Call file and return Miss Gandy Miss Gray Miss Lyon Miss Artley dwa A Tamm 5734 [PAGE 56] [PAGE 57] LB FBI BUTTE -20-47 3-22 PM vb!RECTOR URGENT FLYING DISCS BETWEEN NINE TH I RTY A I NE FORTY FIVE PM AST NIGHT AUGUST NIMETEENTH MR AND MRS HEDSTROM THIRD AVENUE NORTH TWIN FALLS IDAHO WHILE SITTING ON THE FRONT PORCH WITH MRS HENRY 2HULTZ OBSERVED AN OBJECT RESEMBLING A FLYING SAUCER TRAVELING VERY RAPIDLY FROM THE SOUTHWEST TO THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THIS CITY ABOUT TEN MINUTES LATER ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SAW TEN SIMI AR OBJECTS PROCEEDING RAPIDLY IN THE SAME DIRECTION IN THE FORM OF A TRIANGLE AS THIS GROUP OF OBJECTS WAS ABOUT TO DISAPPEAR IN THE OVERCAST SKY THREE OF THE OBJECTS ON THE LEFT FLANK PEELED OFF AND PROCEEDED IN A NORTHERLY DI RECTION THE REMAINING OBJECTS IN THE TRIANGULAR FORMATION APPEARED TO CLOSE RANKS AND CONTINUE IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION EE TO FIVE I NUTES ATER THESE INDIV~LS SAW ANOTHER MIUPHIC GROUP ii'THREE OBJECTS PROCEEDING IN 3\!)l'ff AGAIN I THE SHAPE RIANGLE THREE TO FIVE MINUTES LATER ToFORMANTS OBSERVED ANOTH GROUP CONSISTING Ot FROM FIVE TO SIX OBJECTS AGAIN IN TRIANGULR FORMATION PROCEEDING RAP I DLY IN A NORTHEASTER LY DIRECrfJN A FEW MINUTES LATER A LARGE GROUP OF OBJECTS ESTIMATED AT Bi\kEN THIRTY FIVE AND FIFTY FLEW OVER THE CITY IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION AGAIN IN Jc i [PAGE 58] [PAGE 59] PAGE TWO TR I ANGU AR FORMAT I ON BETWEEN TWENTY AND TWENTY FIVE I NUTES AFTER THE AST GROUP WAS OBSERVED SIM I LAR OBJECTS WERE NOTED COMING BACK ER THE CI TY VERY RAP IOL AND PROCEED I NG I A SOUTHWESTER LY DIRECT I ON AT TH I TI ME I NFORMANTS STATED THE OBJECT APPEARED I GROUPS OF THREE FIVE AND SEVEN A THIS PO I NT MR HED TROM CA LED DETECTI VE RICHARD FRAZ I ER OF THE TW I AL LS PD A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO ACCOMPAN I ED BY ROUNDTREE AND RI CHARD SCOTT A SO MEMBERS OF HE TW I FA LL PD PROCEEDED TO THE HEDS ROM HOME WHERE THEY OB ERVED A GROUP OF TWE VE OBJECTS FLYI NG I FORMAT I ON OVER THE CI TY I A SOUTHWESTERLY DI RECT I ON I NFORMANTS A LL REPUTAB LE CI TI ZENS THIS COMM NI TY NAB LE TO EST I MATE HE I GHT OF OBJEC TS OR SPEED BUT CLA I MED THEY RESEMB ED IL Ll.JNJNATED YI NG SAUCERS THESE I ND IVI DUA LS WERE OF THE OPIN I ON THAT THE OBJECTS OBSERVED WERE NOT THE LANDING LI GHTS OF A I RP ANES NOR SH I NG STARS NONE OF THESE BJEC TS WERE SEEN TO COME TO EAR TH NEAR TW I FA LS AND NONE APPEARED TO BE FLYI NG I AN ARC NONE THESE OBSERVERS HEARD ANY SOUND AS THE ABOVE OBJECTS PASSED OVER THE CI TY I NVEST I GAT I ON ONT I UI NG I LI NE I TH BUREAU I NSTRUCT I ONS CO TA I NED BUREAU BU LET I NO FORTY TWO PARAGRAPH DATED JULY THIRTY AST I EVENT BUR AU IN POSSESS I ON OF ANY I NFORMAT I ON CONCERN I NG EXPER I MENTA AC TIVITI ES ON [PAGE 60] oi c:r REC lVF"'l IV 29 I NTERNAL SE UR ln I [PAGE 61] I PAGE THREE PART OF ARMY AI FORCES WH I CH MAY EX PL A I THESE PHENOMENA AD VI CE WOU LD BE GREAT LY APPREC I A ED IT I BE LI EVED CONT I NUED A PP EARANCE OF SUCH OBJECTS I THOU OFF ICI A EX PL ANAT I ON MAY RE SU LT I HYSTER I A OR PANIC TW IN FA LL I DAHO I BAN I STER A CK AND HO LD PLS 31 PM OK FB I WASH DC WJR I [PAGE 62] El\'EO ET Y?E Ul fff Js11 a i 03 11Mli3lNi il [PAGE 63] 194 UBOD SAC BUTT RXTDBIU IIQUIRDS AT AJIII AIR l'ORCIS D'BAL ftft RIS!GCB OB UPDDCDT VERI llIJIO COIDU(;ml AD II TD ncDITt OY VII AI:LS IDAJIO JnDT YOUR SOURCl8 ll TD ARMY IAff OR JlOOYD a FLYIIiG DISCS JI ell A.'800'1 ADa08T lliitm AIR nmcES DJ>ICAB OfBIBWial MJfISI BUDAU PB<IIPl'LY RECOR EP pi i BQl':fi f.X-3 194 Ji rs DESTROYED 270 N0V181964 [PAGE 64] HO 64 I Office Memoranc!um UNI ED TAT Es OVER NM ENT TO DATE August 22 194 FR OM SUBJEC FLYING DI cs Reference is made the teletype from the tte Field Divisio dated August ZJ 1947 in the above captioned matter Mr &le In acco dance with your request th1.s matter ras chocked lllth Army Air Forces Lieutenant Colonel George Garrett Jr advised Special Agent rif!ee that extensive inquiries rltb'-.<;he Anny Air Forces vealed th a no research or experiments wore being conducted by the in th vic init.r of l\7in Falls Idaho on or ab out ugust 19 1947 r,olonel Garrett stated that he had no infonnation which would throw any light on the matter reported in the teletype ACTI ON It is suggested this memo andum be routed to the Internal security Section to the attention of Supe rvisor Fletcher -ti HECO RD EO EX 30 [PAGE 65] [PAGE 66] cc 160 DERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAT i Li ED STATES DEPARTMEN OF USTICE AUJu.>r 3(,:-1Y47 URGWT TO COMMUNICATIONS SECTION SACS SAJ FRA CISCO MT"D PHOENIX Transmit the following message to REPORT OF amm DISCS JB SANF E1JO AUGUST 1\'JElfTY EIGHT LAST CONCBRunn IN'l'rnVIfl7 WITH ES PHOJ:mX ARIZONA SAl JJlVISE A NO AIR FmCE OT N!CliSSARY FOR FUGATE TO PROCEED 1'0 PHOFNll THAT BURF.AU WILL WJJDLE DJl RVIFll IF Dl!SIRED llJT JOINT INVFSTIGATION lroT DEE!.iF'1 IJECESSAP.Y IF FUGATE PROCEID5 PltlFlITX IN SPITE -OF ABJVE ADVISE Hill lOU ARE tm AUTHORIZED TO cot DUCT JO!fiT VES'!'IGATION AND IiOT POSSIBLE FOR FUGATE TO SIT Il ON INTmvm It l'1ITH ES aoovm lit.- I RE QED F7..1XED vf I iJ I IJ#/1 210 fWt.dAL Blll!EAU OF 11.VEST,aAllO DEPAffTllf£tlT Of JUST CE CDMMUHICATfONS SECTION [PAGE 67] 10 aHOITAUIT1liMMOO OT Lil rid ss 67 U;:i d3:l3li et 3J3T I VO p.IV Tift.Ia [PAGE 68] STA NoA.Ao FOR NO 64 Office Memoran~um UNITED STATES GOVERNME NT Director DATE September 1947 SAC Portland SUBJE CT Orr.YING DISCS SECURITY MATTER eference is made to my teletype dated August 15 1947 advising that a Mr J~T of Agate Beach Oregon had reported on August 1947 that he sighted what he believed to be a disc Mr JOHN BARTL instead of BARI'LErI now esiding in Newport egon was interviewed by Special Agent ROBERT PETI'YJOHN Mr BAR1'L stated that on August 1947 he was residing at Agate B~ach Oregon and that his house was very near the ocean beach that at about 12 30 A he was awakened by his son coming in and that while awake he noticed a bright glow of li ht across the sky out over the ocean He stated that he immediately thought of flying discs and thou ght this might be one of the discs Mr BARrL went on to say that he had no idea as to the shape or size of this object but that it appeared to be about five miles out over the ocean and that he was able to see it for about 15 30 seconds He further stated that due to the darkness he could tell nothing about the speed of this object but thought it was traveling a reat deal faster than any airplane he had ever seen He infonned that this glow of light was somewhat similar to l'he No rthern Light 11 which sometimes appears in the sky but of course not nearly as large and that it appeared to be going up and down that is fluctuating in altitude as it traveled along He stated it disa ppeared in the west either falling into the ocean or disappearing over the hor izon He could ive no other information concerning this object of light reported by him as possibly being a flying disc Mr BARI'L has an Agate and Myrtlewood shop in Newport RJP/es fv11lf mE"μ [PAGE 69] tJ Vo OJ 15 No 0:i/!f3 J:11:1 [PAGE 70] RFA'\J,t gq 11/"bfr 1947 Jira 11,0:0 417 Eao iooenaon St~eet Florence Alabat"lG Dear lJr Vtllia11UJ 89-X3 Tour lettor oj AUgUDt 18 l947 iwo bau,"l rDcetuod and I an noat qpprcciattuc o.f tho thouuht fulnaa whtch pronptea y¢u cot'l.'lun,catc tth mB For your injor'QQ.tion no rsoard Ma been oj/crcd bV any Goucr11ment Agency for the loc a tion f.lytn aaucero I regret that I am unable to bs of aoa atc:mce in thlo tnatanca incerely youro John Edgar Hoover Dtr.ector I [PAGE 71] l~I l)(J [PAGE 72] [PAGE 73] [PAGE 74] [PAGE 75] UNITED TE GOVER MENT DATE Au.gust 20 1947 To Director FBI SAC Spr:ingfield suJ FL'YillG DISC Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin Mo 42 Series 1947 dated July 30 1947 re the above or the Bureau information a Mrs ANDERSON of aybrook Illinois reported to this office the finding of a flying disc in her front yard at 00 A on July 26 1947 It appears from investigation conducted by an Agent of this of fice that the stability of JUNE ANIEBSON is questionable H<Yr·r ever the alleged f~g disc was obtained and it is apparently the concoction of some of the juveniles in the area It is an old wooden pl.a tter which has assembled on it a silver plate a spark plug a timer and sone ol bt-ass tub:ing Photographs were taken of the sane and there are six views enclosed herewith No doubt this was someone's idea of a prank The disc is present'.cy- being re ained by the Springfield Office and will be retained pending recei pt of Bureau advice relative to its destruction The thoug ht in retaining it was that perhaps the Bureau might desire to ave it tr ansmitted to Washington for any novel value it might hav fj 56 JBP:hg 62-0 1445 Eno [PAGE 76] [PAGE 77] [PAGE 78] Enclosure To Bureau Photographs of Flying Disc found at S~hrook Ill 7-26-47 SI File 6a-0-1445 [PAGE 79] [PAGE 80] F:cying Dis 11 iS Folllld Sayb rook Ill 26 -47 [PAGE 81] [PAGE 82] 11 F4'ing Dis Found Saybr ook I ll 26-47 [PAGE 83] [PAGE 84] F'.cy'ing Disc Found Saybr ook Ill 26 -47 [PAGE 85] [PAGE 86] Flying Disc 11 Found Say brook Ill -26-47 [PAGE 87] [PAGE 88] J.¥ing Disc Found Saybrook Ill 47 [PAGE 89] [PAGE 90] tF'4'ing Dis 11 Found Savrb rook Ill 7-26 47 [PAGE 91] SAC Springfield September 1947 Director FBI FLTINO DISC RECORDED jS With reference to your letter dated August 20 1947 it is desired that you contact the appropriate Ar,q ot fici&le and the event the;r are not interested in receiving thie alleged fiying disc it ma7 be destro,-ed RGF:LH COMMUNICATIONS SECTION MAILED 10 SEP 1947 P.M D~L BUREAU Of 111vESTl6ATIOII Fu OEPARTMENT ot us11c [PAGE 92] iltllAL BUREAU Of INVESTIGATION DEPART~Etff OF JUSTICE COMMUNICA Tl~~S fECTION SEP 947 TELETYPE t-rr i FBI PORTLAND 4-47 3-42 PM PST KAM ECTOR URGENT RP FLYING DISCS A MRS RAYMON~UI OSWEGO OREGON REPORTED TO HAVE SEEN-TWELVE TO FIFTEEN ROUND SILVER OBJECTS AT A HIGH ALTITUDE AT TWELVE FIFTEEN PM SEPT THIRD FORTYSEVEN ABOVE OSWEGO OREGON WHILE UATCHI~G A LOCAL PLANE FLYING OVERHEAD ILL BE INTE RV IE W~D BOBBITT END 90 HODD PLS $.1?>1 Jv 45 PM OK FBI WAH rr oitDEJ-1 10 fX-66 Jvt tf tf>,C ngtun I Illmm [PAGE 93] l,lt:.r Ill- I I r-t LI [PAGE 94] Office Memorandum uNrTEn sTATEs GOVERNMENT TO DIRECTOR DA TE 9-1 3-47 OM SAC PORTLAND SUBJECT FLYING DISCS SECURITY MATTER Reference is made to my teletype dated 9-4- 47 advising that Mrs HAYMO~UIS Oswego Oregon was reported to ha ve seen a number of discs on 9-3- 47 above Oswego Mrs DUPUIS was interviewed and described the object which she has observed as followa a While entertaining her year old son and 10 year old neighbor child on her lawn at about noon Mrs DUPUIS and the children noticed approximately t,,o dozen round silver objects high in the sky Mrs DUPUIS stated she believed these objects to have been platter shaped rather than spherical and to have been considerably larger than an airplane of the cub type which was flying in a different portion of the sky at the same time She advised that these objects appea ed to her be at a gre at distance and constructed of some white metallic mater ial Mrs DUPUIS attention was fir st drawn to the objects by an ex planation from one of the child en to the effect that the airplane was sky writing The objects were grouped in approximately an ar about level with the sun and to the eft of the sun as viewed by Mrs DUPUIS They did not change positions during the or minutes which she bserved them but some of the larger of the objects appea ed to rotate rapidly in the manner of a wheel One of the objects was sepa ated by considerab distance from the main group and while she was watching Mrs DUPUIS states this object began to fall and floated slowly downward unti it 18.S no longer visable because of trees on the horizon Mrs DUPUIS advised that she continued to observe the remaining objects until her eyes began to be affected by the brightnes of the sky whereupon she went into her house and is unabl to state wh became of the group lt Llfl a MB Uo 73 62 153 lbi:nm lS SEP 17 1947 [PAGE 95] [PAGE 96] PORMN0 14 Memorandum UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO l,J PROM J.IR I ADD E.G Fitc YING DISCS DATB Septeml::ler 1947 SUBJECT Mr Tolson Mr A ram Mr Clegg Mr Glavin lti~~-01 llr Rosen Reference is made to my memorarrlum to you in the above captioned matter dated August 22 1947 which irrlicates that Special Agent Griffee r.~Ttigl;on of the Liaison Section had contacted Lieutenant Colorel Garrett Jr i.~JggmTanm of the Air Forces Intelligence at which tine Colonel Garrett advised that t!'t the A:nn.y Air Forces were coniucting no research or experin:e nts in the 111 03.nd:r vicinity of TWin lia.11s Idaho on or about August 19 1947 Coloool Garret at that tine indicated to Mr Griffee that he wou ld check Yith the Anny area in order to ascertain whether or not they were conducting any eXp:3ri.1'00nts in t.'li vicinity at that time Colonel Garrett has subsequently advised llr Reynolds that he has been advised by the A:rmy area that no such exp3rin2 nts oore being coniucted in the area of T\ri.n lia.11s Idaho on or a bout August 19 1947 which would in any way throw any ligit on the matter reported in the teletyi;:e REC0MllENDATI0N It is recomnenied this memorarrlum be of the Internal Security Section SSEP 22194 30 [PAGE 97] [PAGE 98] September 26 1947 lJr A Courtney Parker Superintendent of School South oyalton Vermont Dear Ur Parker I wbh to aolmowledge reoeiy,t of your letter dated Sentember 17 1947 An Aient of our Al l•w York 01'1'ioe will call upon you in the near uture for any additional in formation your poaaeaaion Your courtesy and interest bi'intin& this matter to ay attention are indeed anpreoiated Sinoerely your John Edpr Hoover Direc-tor cc Albany sepa ra te cover letto RECORD ED 15 62-83894 rn RGF:cmw COMMUNICATIONS SECTION MAILED 11 FP 1947 P.M ESTISAT(o JUSTI -----""""lb llr Tolson llr.E,A 8t:~n g•=ot.:::s llr Rosen Tracy- J:'.:=:=•a- 111 Harbo- 1-ng=t:;,,on- llr qu1nn Ta,an Tols Room Kr Neaee lllsa Oandy [PAGE 99] SAC Alban September 25 1947 lllreotor FBI FU.'IJfJ DISCS A Coartney Pt.mer Informant Attached h.-eto are copies or an incoDd.ng commmication from A Courtney Parker Superintendmt ot Schoal.a Bouth Jlojalton Verm:,nt and copies ot aclc:nowledgmcrt or same It ie requested that Agmt of -raar Oi't.lce call on 11r Pa.Iicer to obtain any ad:11.tional information in his possession cancerriing fiying discs I rr l"'-..l Pn~es 31 A kiBwRD.EJfGF mae 1:1 I COMMUNICATIONS SECTION MAILED 11 St.P 1947 FE0E8Al 6U!fEJJJ OF lltVESTIGATION DEP~KTMENT OF JIJSrlCE t-r [PAGE 100] CHELSEA RW ICH ROYALTON TAT.E Oi ERMO DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION ORANGE I NDS IST ICT A COURTNEY PARKER Superin1endcn1 SOUTH ROYALTON Septembe 17 1947 Fe•eral Bureau of Invest i gat i on Wa hi to Dear Sirs At 40 to aay I observe a so cal flying sauce Tnis occu re wnile I was nalf way up Rix Leages north of Lebano As I wa intently watching tne honey bees circling in a paten of sky after leaving my bee box my attention was cal ea to a floating object that appearea to be as large as a tennis ball an as wnite as cotton batting This object approache rapialy an noiselessly from the East an was followe closely by another object that appeare in size an shape like a saucer which maintaine a constant angle of inclination to tne ba an followe it at a constant aistance Tne two objects maae an angle with my eye of approximately five aegrees Tney were in my vision for more than a minute wnen I ost them in tne glare of the sun If I natl seen this in tne night sky with my six incn telescope I woul nave tnougnt tnat tne planets Venus an Saturn naa su••enly gotten together an were traveling tne eartn &J.-ff 3o7f [PAGE 101] [PAGE 102] OFFICE OF DI RECTOR FEDERAL BUREAU INVESTIGATION UNITED STAfES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE September 1947 Mr Tracy Mr Carson I Ladd_.r Ni cbols Rosen Mr Egan The attached was sent to Mr Gurnea the Director by Walter Mr Harbo Winchell Mr Hendon Mr Jones Mr Pennington The notations appearing Tele Room thereon read Mr Nease Miss Holmes Ack F.B.I Miss Gandy Please excuse haste make airmail west Attachment mt RDEn ED Bureau fil ail to reflect any record on Madeline Gwynne Merchant the writ letter I SEP is 1947 [PAGE 103] 11.1 snr 10 1.d30 s·r [PAGE 104] alter incnell Postmaster Loo Angeles C,..J.if l)e c:1.r i ncr:e 11 hvo.cle&e Jetter deals with what are being called iscs You are not -co mention tne co ntents of this lett er over the air nor to any ina.ividual otner tnan officials of tu.e a,r uep wemoers of the JBI or an American whose patriotism ollld rank wi tn your ovm &.i..d wno might donate t,10 000 or more for the purpose of my continuing tne col~ection of field a.at a conce1·ning II d1.0c 11 while time may remain which to do so I haTe had respectful attention from the follo,,ing perso uo-tiheerrn fi6F e;;;:gx:iG acco·u::t Qveu Col Herbert Gee Comm Officer Lo Alamos At omic rroject Lo Ale.mos ti aj Bia.ne Newourger Securi t:V Official Lo Alamos Atomic Project Los Al amos 1illara Zim!uer Lili tar:v Intelliger.ce Jox 6ol i:>anta re i I ENCLOSURE [PAGE 105] [PAGE 106] Pnone 1566 to China rri ashington with the right ahead money to elusive ii this Gee reali t"lr rancis A inle;y ederal A ent in Chart;;e ureau OI Inv cigation San:ta J'e 1v1 Gen Brennaul ss to Lf Gen Nathan Twining AAJ Mater iel Command Washington n.c Col Zumwalt Ass to Colonel Bunker Co!Ilill 0:t'f Kirtl and J'ield Albuquerque Gen Patrick Hurley ormer Ambassador 1210 Shoreham Bld Also Santa J·e ashingta And th ough the courtesy o:t Gen Patrick Hurlev a let~er from Sec OI War Robert Patterson ar Dep All were highlJ interested appreciative general trend contacts be in This is fine Go My poin in wr iti ng you is to raise some roceed with budgets seemed to allow for the unexpected discs 11 Sen Carl llatch Senate ashington nas been contacted by mai Ior an appropriatio but even onl;v requires one more week it may be too late You may contact any oI the abov listed persons to veriI'y contacts excuse repetition word contact during the past tour months In ther word I began reporting dire ctl to Dr rris tiraa.bury bcientific Head of Los Alamos and Colonel et al some time ago tn tnis t;v_i:)e aerial II disc was a [PAGE 107] This mate~ial 1as considered con!idential and still is I have been asked by Colonel Gee not to speak an further than mat~rial which has been published in the press And I have chosen simply not to speak at all except to a source which I consider might 1urther my own work I I you ask or tne above persons to ascertain whether or not I have made serious materially aluable contributions which ma indicate much scien~i!ically and which i action can be continued soon enough may a li~~le later save our nation much please make inquiries quietly and as promptlv as convenient I must ask you not to speculate even to vourselr out si pl to act lJo not mention in any manner until release bv the har Dep even tue receipt or this letter except to the abo ve persons or proper governmen o:t:ticials tnere Or to one whom ou know Hill make a donaliion t'erhaps your savest bet would -be simpl:v to telephone the 1.r3I there auo let them telephone rancis inle:v nere tor verirication I promise you an exclusive behind the scenes stor when and if tne 1ar lJep releases the material nationally Me ant ime your action now may save vou..r ov1n li te and that 01 others who ma nave wor dered what a disc is Rest assured I have all the proper scientific and rovernmenta contacts needed al I need is the where¼ithall I h~ve the proper backt;roi...nd to d.isci...ss tne subject secure the further field [PAGE 108] ta I new need explain it technically and secure proper action provided I wn given ne means to do so I regret that I cannot be more specific now but dutv to country rests above I ha ve met be:t'ore with the mental reaction What A woman ha na lin this type material And m:v signature beTow will pro baol evoke the same response f'rom vou So I assure vou ves it is a woman who is com i ng in with the inI ormation which men have gone out to seek And doin the proper thin about it Mrs hla deline cc Am a rormer newspa er person and very proud of it Am 39 but dress and feel some younger Ag ain I must ask ou not to mention even the town from which this letter com es as vou a:v be endan ge ring lives to so so Simply ascertain my contributions get so monev to me and wait -rancis l'inley cJ ould give me a as bud et iI ne were not so close himself [PAGE 109] [PAGE 110] [PAGE 111] UNITE:C ATES GOVERNMENT ffice Mr rt DATE August 28 1947 FROM Bauehman olso SU BJECT etter and materia received from Mrs xon still South carolina Route Box JO l.l He Pe Qu alt:l i:r 1ass The attached let dated August 14 1947 rom Mrs ixon to gether with the ma terial which she re ports to be pa rt of a lying sauc er was rece i ved in aborato on Au gu 19 1947 The materia which l'!as subni tted i th rs ix on I tter has be.:n ide nt ified as po wdered oa stones In a smuc as the Investigative and Security Divis io ns might po ssibly be inte re sted in this matter I requ st th at ou adv:ise me as to the inal disposition of the submitted material as well as the type of reply which should be nad to rs Mi xon letter fX 83 [PAGE 112] g'tl -\-03 Y3'd L~c i [PAGE 113] SUBJECT LYING SA CER Reference is made to the emrandum from Ur Baughman to a rbo dated August 28 1947 requesting vice as to the final disposi tion of material submitted by Mrs Estill South Carolina It is noted that this material ic lfrs Mixon reported to be a -part or a flying saucer has been identified as powdered soap stones l'O DATE September 194 FROM Co It is recomnended that the material be returned Mrs Jlixon along with a letter adV'ising that such has been identified as powdered soap stones RGF:LH [PAGE 114] lSfW i ci30 11 I I nrr 03Al333t1 LZ cl Lt Wd OJ Lk i HS ISIAI0 r1rnl'lll0 I [PAGE 115] Memorandum uNrTED sTATEs GovERNMENT Director FBI SAC Phoenix REPORI'S OF FLTIID IJlSCS ATTENl'IONs Reference is made to San Francisco letter dated August 28 1947 and to Bureau te1etype to Phoenix dated August 30 1947 With reference to the above matter I desire point out that the letter of reference from San Francisco did not reach Phoenix until September 1947 On August 29 194 a Mr GEORGE FUGATE JR called at the Phoen:i.X office and exhibited credentials reflecting that he is a representative of Fourth Air Force Hamilton Field California He also exhibited orders emanating from the office of Colonel DONALD SPRINGER Fourth Ai Force Hamiilton Field California instructing rum proceed to Phoenix immediately and contact the FBI office at llhich time a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation would be designated to acc ompany him to interview WI~FS who had previously eported he μiotographing of a flying disc The orders further indicated that the sa.n Francisco office of the FBI was transmitting further information re lating to Mr FUGATE mission ASAC HEBER CLEGG telephonically communicated with SAC HARRY KDABA.U of the San Francisco office and Mr KIMBALL verified t.he above infonnation and stated that a letter bad been directed to the Fhoenix office suggesting that the Phoenix office assist aey representative who called from in the interrogatio of RHODES SAC KIMBALL stated that in connection Jdth f~g discs he had mai tained close contact with Colonel SPRINGER and that close cooperation existed He further advised tba many reports of flying discs had been received at San Francisco and that a full discussion concerning the results of inquiries had been he1d with Colone1 SPRINGER In connection with f'l¥:i.ng disc investigations Mr KIMBALL advised he had maintained close touch w.i th the fureau and had apparently handled these matters in accordance with Bureau policy In vien of the above Special Agent BAIIEY BRCNIER of the fhoenix office was permitted to work with Mr FUGATE in the interview of WILLIAM ALBERT RHODF.S The results of the inquiry are set out hereunder ASSISTANI DIIW:;TOR 1947 11 P30 194 7coPms DESTROYF.D NOV 18 1964 [PAGE 116] [PAGE 117] Phoellix file 62-213 WILLIAU ALBERT RHODES 4333 14th Street Phoenix Arizona owns and maintains the Panoramic Research Laboratory and Hobby Shop at this address and he related the following as occurring on the afternoon of JuJ.y 1947 A torm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of Ju1y 1947 and the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet the color of which was grey and they resembled dense cum.uJ.us A fifteen mile per hour wind was blowing At approximately p.m on th at date Mr RHODES was walking fr om his home to the Hobby Shop and he heard a noise resembling a P-80 aircraft apparent'.cy coming in a wester'.cy direction Upon searching the skies he observed to the northeast what appeared to be an odd shaped ship He described this ship as being possibly 20 to 30 feet in diameter travelin at an st imated speed of 100 miles per hour It appeared to be making a spiral in a small radius of possibly one -half to three quarters of a mile RHODES stated the sound which he first heard was no longer audible that he hurriedzy procured a 120 Brownie Box Camera from his shop and as the aircraft completed the first circle he obtained a photograph As the ship started on the second turn it was in a northwesterly dire tion from his place and he again snapped a photograph which more losely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph this being designated as Exhibit II as submi ted to the Bureau with letter dated August 1947 by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff Intelligence Hamilton Field Cali fo rnia RHODES further described the direction of the ship by stating that instead of completing the lefthand downward spiral the ship banked to the right and disappe a red into the clouds He stated that just as it banked he had snapped the second photograph Exhibit II At the la st point which was at the time the ship made this turn Mr RHODF.S estimated it to be between 000 arrl 2,00 feet high He further des cribed the appearance of this ship as closely re embling a picture which appeared on the front cover of the May 194 issue of the Mechanics Illus tr ated Magazine the only difference noted by Mr RHODFS being that the ship appeared be fly ing backward Mr RHODES also related that he did not associate the appearance of this ship with the numerous reports of flying discs He related however that after a three minute interview with newspaper repor-ters the story that appeared in the local papers was blown up to the extent that he RHODES barely recog nized the information furnished by him Mr RHODES explained that the afore mentioned dimensions and distances were only estimated pointing out that his previous experience probably assisted him in making fairly close estimates He rel ated that he bad been doing experimental work for the past ten years He also stated he was Employed at the Naval Ordnance Laboratory Washington durin the early part of World War II and le ft there the beginning of 942 Upon his return Phoenix he as employed at Falcon Field near Phoenix which was le a sed by the British Goverrunent for tr aining purposes He instructed in instrument trainin aircraft iden ification and gunn l"'J practice He explained that his hobbies have to do with science physics radio electronics and astronomy He produced a model which he had made of a radio controlled airplane He related that most of his work consists of building transfonners but it is also ec essary for him to depend upan his music ability for his livlihood [PAGE 118] Phoenix file 62-213 In explaining the results of photographing the ship Mr RHODES stated that he was surprised that the object appeared dark on a light back ground that he fully expected that the object would be li ght on a dark back ground He described the light spot which appears in the center of the object Exhibit II as being a green house RHODES insisted that the ship made no noise that was audible his ear and he was unable to detect the presence of aey propeller He also related that after the newspaper release over Radio Station KTAR wherein statements were made that he RHODES had stated Army officials were studying the photographs and that it was a top secret he attempted to determine the source of this release and the Radio station finally told him that it was a United Press release from Washington The following description of RHOD ES was obtained from observation and interrogation Age Date birth Pla birth Height Weight Eyes Hair Education Marital status 30 29 Garden City Kansas 155 pounds Blue Brown Fhoenix Union Hi gh School M:lrried- one son It shoul.d be stated that at the time of intervi8i'f with RHODES Mr BROWER identitied himself as an agen of the Federal Bureau of Investi gatio and exhibited his credentials However pursuant to a request 1'rom Mr FUGATE he was introducBd only as a epresentative of the United States governme nt His exact of'ficia1 connection was not made lmown to Mr RHODE.S Agent BROWER advised that he felt it was a peculiar procedure but it was not his business However at the conclusion of the interview Mr FUGATE requested Ur RHODES to furnish him with the negatives and RHODF.5 stated he would be glad to do so but they were not in his iDJJ18iiate possession and he would deliver then to the FBI the following morning Mr RHODF.S requested that the negatives be returned to him Agent BROVTER states that to this request Mr FUGATE made no rep Agent BROWER states that after leaving Mr RHODES he asked FUGATE if the negatives would be returned to Mr RHODES and FUGATE stated that he doubted very much that they would be returned Mr BROWER then advised Mr FUGATE that before he BROWER would accept these egatives that RHODES must be adv ised of Mr FUGATE'S identity and also advised that the negatives it turned CNer to Mr FUGATE would not be returned to him [PAGE 119] Phoenix file 62-2l3 In view of which on th morning on August 30 1947 when Mr RHODES called at the Phoenix office deliver the negatives they were accepted only after he was advis ed that they were being given to Mr FUGA TE a repre se ntative of the Army Air Foree Intelligence United States Arrrry and that there -was little if any chance of his getting the negatives back Mr RHODES turned the negatives over to this ffice with the full ll.Merstanding that they were being given to the Army and that he would not get them tack The Phoenix office did not receive the Bureau teletype of re fe rence instructing that no joint investig atio should be conducted until after the matter had been handled Inasmuch as military authorities have complete knowledge of the results of the interview with Mr RHODES no copy of this eport is being designated for JBB-kb cc-san Francisco 62 2)3 [PAGE 120] FBI PORTLAND 13 47 08 Pf HHS Ir Cl Hr JS Dff l/DfREC10R I FLYING DISCS LEOt NKil~S CEIEF OF POLICE PORTLP,ND STA TES HE OBSERVED AT ABOUT FIVE FIFTEEN PM ELEVENTH I NSTANT AN OBJECT SIM I LAR IN SIZE TO A WEATHER BALLOON WHICH APPEARED TO BE MADE OF ALUMINUM OR SOt-'iE OTHER BRICHT METAL TrrnVELING RAPIDLY NORTHUEST TO SOUTHEAST OVER PORTLAND AT AN ESTIMATED TEN THOUSAND FEET OBJEC1 JEERED TO SOUTH AND DISAPPEARAD IN THE DISTANCE I APP,,OJ I MATELY ONE lit-:UTE ALSO OBSERVED BY PATROU-iAN At~EY DRI'~'fi JEN la CAR A fCSSIBLY BY OTHER PORTLAND POLICE OFFICERS SMALL ARTICLE APPEARED IN PORTLAND NE~SPAPER THE OREGONIAN CONCERNING THIS ON TKELF'i'H INSTANT END [PAGE 121] REC EI VE TELETYPE NIT 8.1 DEP OF I USTICE I 11 1rnno 1VH 3ltH tO 03M333a [PAGE 122] If£ Mr I I Ir AVENUE TENN BELLGRAVE -Ge WHICH HE SOUTHERLY DI~ECTION AND TURNING PLANE I FBI NORFOLK 13- 47 15 PM CLC AlRECTOR FLYING DISCS MRS H~OCKTON ONE SIX NINE A VIEW OCEAN VIEW VA REPORTED SIGHTING FLYING DISC AT SHOUNS SIXT LAST SON-IN LAW H~NINGS ONE ONE ONE OCEAN VEG VIEW CONFIRMS SIGHTING OF THIS OBJEJT DESCRIBEJ AS BEING SHAPEU LIKE FOOT3ALL MOVING IN A AT CONSTANT ALTITUDE OF APPROXIMAT:~LY TWO THOUSAND FEET END OVER END IN THE AIR RATE OF SPEED COMPARABLE TO CUB JENNINGS STAT.ES eJt!rft OBJECT VIS IBLE FOR APPROX I t1ATEL FIVE MINt.4s AGAINST OVEJ-tCAST SKY NO DETAILS DISCERNIBLE iENNINGS DOES NOT BEL I EVE OBJECT WAS DISC BUT THAT I MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LOOSE l-U::Tt.ROXX METEOROLOGICAL BALLOON Rue END PN OK FBI WA BW ROBEY [PAGE 123] EIVEO TELETYPE UIIIT 6Eft I I PH 41 DEFT OF IUSTICE [PAGE 124] I Rlll'LY RPm TO cnN1=10rN11Al I A~UARTERS ARMY AIR FORC WASHINGTON AFBIR- SEP 194 Director Federal Bureau of Investigation Department of Justice Washington 25 Dear Sir Attention Liaison Section In answer to a verbal request of your Mr Reynolds a complete survey of research activities discloses that the Army Air Forces has no project with the characteristics similar to those which have been associated th the i lying Discs Yours sincerely GEO SCHULGEN Bl'lg&d ie Gener a S.A Deputy Ass Chief of Air Sta ff- I Authori ty NND90986 CONFIDENTIAL A ODREH Rl!Pl.Y TO COM ANDING GENE RA ARNY AIR FORCES AS HI NQTON 2!1 [PAGE 125] Office Memorandum UNITED sTATEs GOVERNMENT TO DATE 9/16/47 11r ole w:r A Tua FROM I J'lto Ill Ladd ill Nlc hole ill Ro UBJECT l'Lnl'G DISCS 111 H&rbo llr endo Special Agent ReJ"DOl4e of the Lial1on Section hae 41 llr PeMtng to ill Quinn cu ed with Ltatenant Colonel George Garrett of the tatelllgence DiTidoa of the Air rorcea the poaa1"bll1 that the fiTiDC diac1 or Ho lme 1auoer1 are in fact a project of the J,,,rJq Air Yore It should note& that Ooloael Garrett 8Cl"eM with thta poa1lbUit7 At that time Mr ReJD,014a polatecl nt Oeloael Garrett the poadble barrudng poet Hon of the tntellf&ence D1T1aion of tbe Air Yore tf tt wa eqv.eat17 aacer\atned that th11 va1 the truth eapeo1all7 alaoe the7 ha4 requested the ae11sta.uce of the Bureau in the oapt1oaecl aatter Oolonel Qarrett a4-rieecl Mr R•J']lold1 that he wo1ll.d 1D1tlmte a fur'her ea.rob and ha1 nov a4-r11ed that a letter was a4dreeeecl lt1 Major General KcI>onal.4 Director of the l:a'8111Bence D1Tb1on of the Air Jloroea to the lleeearah and DneloJlllent Seotton of the Air hro here at~hed hereto a letter addrea1ecl to the Director da,ed Sep,•b•r 15 1947 froa rtca,lter General George Sclmlgen which tat tba a coaplete nrn7 ot reeearoh aot1-rt tie cUec101ee that the ilr Jlorcee ba no project with cbaraotertaUc 1a1l.ar to hose which haTe been uaooiatecl with tu flTiDC dleoa llCQMMl!JBDATIOJ It ta reoo-•nd.ecl that thil meJ10randua be forwarded to tlle Internal Securit7 Seotio:a for their illfol'll&tion Attacblleat 04 73 g-91 rr 110 SE 947 [PAGE 126] IV II 12 lfrfR NAL S£cun RECE EO I 11 l'i iJf plG EC EIVEO IH RHAL secUR\T I ESTIG ATIV OIV IS IO 10$ P,f lt,,f Yr OF II Sil Ml I i I I I Jr- Of PT or JU ll I [PAGE 127] Office Memorandum UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO Director FBI DAT 9-17-47 Portland REPORrS OF FLYnm DISCS SECURITY MATTER Refer San Francisco letter dated September 1947 FRID HNSON Globe Hotel 106 mv First Avenue Port land reported without consulting any records that on June 24 1947,while prospecting at a point in the Cascade Moun tains approximately five thousand feet from sea level during the afternoon he noticed a reflection looked up and saw a disc pro ceeding in a southeasterly direction Immediately upon sighting this object he placed his telescope to his eye and observed the disc for approximately forty five to sixty secondil He remarked that it is possible for him to pick up an object at a distance of ten mil.es with his telescope At the time the disc was sighted by Mr JOHNSOO it was banking in the sun and he observed five or six similar objects but only concentrated on one He related that they did not fly in any particular formation and that he would estimate their height to be about one thousand feet from where he was standing He said the object was about thirty feet in diameter and appeared to have a tail It made no noise According to JOHNSON he remained in the vicinity of the Cascades for several days and then turned to Port land and noted an article in the local paper which stated in effect that a man in Boise Idaho had sighted a similar object but that authorities had disclaimed any knowledge of such an object He said he cozmnunicated with the Army for the sole purpose of attempt ing to add credence to the story furnished by the man in Boise JOHNSON also related that on the occasion of his sighting the objects on June 24 1947 he had in his possession a combination compass and watch He noted particula rly that immediately beiore he sighted the disc the compass acted very peculiar the hand waving from one side to the dther but that this condition corrected itself immediately after the discs had passed out of sight Infonnant appeared to be a very reliable individual Y1ho advised that he had been a prospector in the states of ontana Washington and Oregon for the past forty yea rs FJS:KAM 62-1531 cc San Francisco 62-293 31 EP 9~7 [PAGE 128] [PAGE 129] 0&nc1.y ST ftD FORM~- 64 JIO ffice Memorandum UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO II ADD legg FROM FITCH llr lav1 lir-- lt SUBJ CT rxnm DISCS Kr urnea llr llar bo llr Holldo Special Agent Vf Reynolds of the Liaison Section while dis i cussing the above captioned phenomena with Lieutenant -Colone~rrett l:i of the Ai Forces Intelligence expressed the possibility that fzyin 11 iscs were in fact a very highly classified experi.roont of the Army or Navy Mr Reynolds was very much surprised when Colonel Garrett not on1:- I greed that this was a possibility but confidentially stated it was his personal opinion that such was a probability Colonel Garrett indicated confidentially that a rroll who is a scientist attached to the Air Forces Intel igence was of the same opinion Colonel Garrett stated that he based his assumption on the following He pointed out that when flying objects -were reported seen over Sweden the 11 high brass of the War Department exerted tremendous pressure on the Air Forces Intel igen ce to conduct research and collect inform a tion in an ef fo rt to identify these sightings Co onel Garrett stated that in cont ast to this we have reported sightings of unknovm objects over the United States and the high bra ss appear ed to be totally unconcerned He indicated this led him to believe that they knew enough about these objects to expr ess no concern Colonel Ga rett pointed out further that the obj cts in question have been en by many ind ivi duals who a re what he terma 11 trai ed observer such as airplane pilots He ind i cated also that sev ral of the indiv i dual ar re iable membe of the community He stated i i his conc lus i on tha these in dividuals saw something He stated the above has ed him to come the conclusion that he re ere objects seen which somebody in the Governme nt knows all about Mr Reynolds poin te out to Colonel Garrett that if it is a fact exper imentat io ns are being conducted by the United States Government then it does not appear re asonable to re quest the FBI to spend money and precious time conducting inqui ies with respect to this matter Co onel Garret stated that he agreed with Ur Reynolds in this regard and indicated that it would be ext emely mbarrassing to he Air Forces Int el ligence if i late is learne<i th at hese fl ying discs ar in fa ct an experiment of the United States Goverruoont Mr Reynol ds su bsequently discussed this matter with Colonel Forney of the Intel igen ce i vision of the Wa Depa tment Colonel Forney stated that he had discussed the matter previously wi General Chamberlin Colonel Forney indicated to Mr Reynolds that he has the assurance of General REC ORD ED SWR LL rV EX-64 INDEXED I COPIES 1'R0YED SEP29 27 NOV lo 1964 [PAGE 130] [PAGE 131] MEMORANDUM FOR MR IADD Chamberlin and General Todd that the Army is conducting no experimentations with anything which could possibly be mistaken for a flying disc Colonel Garrett of the Air Forces Intelligence subsequently contacted Mr Re nolds and indicated that he had discusse this matter with General Schulgen of the Army Air Forces General Schulgen had previously assured both Mr Reynolds and Colonel Garrett that to the best of his knowledge and in formation no experiments were being undertaken by the Government which could be mistaken for flying discs Colonel Garrett indicated to Mr Reynolds that he had pointed out his beliefs to General Schulgen and had mentioned the possibility of an embarrassing situation arising between the Air Forces Intelligence and the FBI General Schulgen agreed with Colonel Garrett that a memorandum would be prepared for the signature of General McDonald to General IeMay who is in charge of Research and Development in the Air Corps Colonel Garrett indicated that this memorandum will set forth the characteristics of the objects seen by various reliable individuals The memorandum will then request General I.e:May to indicate whether or not any experiloonts are being undertaken by the Air Forces which could possibly be connected with any of the observed phenomena Colonel Garrett stated that when a reply is received from General I..eMa.y a comnmnication will be addressed to the Bureau Mr Reynolds will follow this matter closely with Colonel Garrett and General Schulgen so that the Bureau will be promptly advised of all infozmation re ardin the flying discs especially aey information indicatin that they are in fact an experiment of some Governmental agency [PAGE 132] 8-8 jfi Memor dum UN ITED STA OVER NM ENT TO DATE FROM a I cs SUBJ EC c::FBS IN Reference is made to the memorandum to you frolJl he Liaison Section dated July 21 1947 setting forth a request from Colonel Oo br anson of the Intelligence Di.vision of the War Department for the B.lreau to conduct investigation to determine the origLn of the flying discs OBSERVATIONS It is felt that the situation regarding these flying saucers and flying discs is very similar to the situation which was previously encountered tu the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints aris i ng out of the sighting of Japanese baloons You will recall that at the inception of these complaints the Blr eau conducted considerable investigation and located numerous baloons as a cooperative measure for the Army and that after considerable work had been done the Arnu then informed that these were military weapons and that they would take over the handling of these complete This they did and in an extremely short time issued a big press release as to the splendid work of the Army in locating these Japanese baloons From the infonnation available thus fa it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a military weapon Certainly the B.lreau as no way to determi what experiments the Arrrq and Navy are conducting and whether such might be arising out of experiments being conducted by them nor do we have any way of determining how far the Russians have progressed in certain experiments and mether such might I be the esul of experiments by the Russian Array It hort i would ce rtain.L1 appear that this is a mi li tary situation and should be handled strictly tu zm itary authorities In this conne tion it ml..ght be pointed out that our present Portland case arose out of the fact that two Army Intel li gence officers were returning from an interview of two individuals who reportedly had seen flyin discs If ft he Army Intelligence officers are handling some of these interviews it is be ieved that they should be handling all of these interviews and it is not believe that the Bureau should be expending its precious manpower on these com plaints wh i ch thus far have no connection with our Russian espionage program The military authorities certainly are better equipped to know wh at they are looking for than we are and have more facilities for handling any material which it is necessary to examine as a result of its being reported as a remnant of a £'lying disc It is believed that the fureau is mere playin bird-dog for tm Army b'J usin our manpower to run out these complaints on flyin discs ACTION EX 34 REOO:RDJm I be f!!!t- 31 In view of the recent Bu reau fulletin #42 dated July 1921& howl:ver there is attached a letter to the Ch i cago Office as ki ng that~e e°"''j;/'7t,he requested investigation 34 f{l yj,1 I [PAGE 133] 07 rER HAL EcuRr RECEIVED 25 57 PM I INTERN AL SECURIP F.B n.r:- 111r- [PAGE 134] llrD Joaeph R),an Bieber CalU'ornia Dear Wro R)oana Receipt ia aolcnowledted of your letter dated September 19 194 requesting into tion oonoerning the origin ot the nying 2Ecnu I bh In thie oo.nneotlon you are advi ed that Tin ot a long eatabl1ahed pol1 am unable to t'w-niah the reaulta ot inwirttg&tioti l:u thia lllreau to otb.r than Gowrnmctal 11ouroe.e For thia reucn I regNt that I am unable to anS1Mr your question wt I appreciate your interest writing to me thia regard Sinoerely youn olm Edgar BooTer Direotor RGF:vj:cmw COMMUNtCAno MA ILE 12 rr 1947 P.M llr llr loleon llr legp lll£lU Of llr levln PARTMENTO Cf --~'-9!111--I llr Harbo 11r 11ohr Mr Pennington llr Quinn Tam- Tele Room 1'.1- llr Nea••- lllso Gan<ly [PAGE 135] illJ033S lfN Wd tz fi 10'1 sr oa tr i WI nil 11 [PAGE 136] -he Ian du.neuf fi.um.e BIEBER CALIFORNIA [PAGE 137] -hi- a cl eJ:,::- I rt [PAGE 138] l:JJWL BUREAll INV~STIGATIOH 0£.l'AIIT STICE COMMU I\Afl SECTION AUG f"i e47 TELETYPE I FBI SEATTLE 47 20 PM PST RH fl C,1/4 111 RECTOR AND SAC CHICAGO AND BUTTE URGENT FLYING__j)Is.KS SIGHTED BY FREIY'CHR I SMAN AND HARLD -K"'DAHL SM DASH REMYTEL AUGUST SIX LAST CAPTIONED FLYING DISKS Mr i A lac Mr.Clea Mr vi l'dr.Ladl1 Nlcho Mr rraey Mr Ei:en Mr air Mr.la 110 lr to!tr Mr r,r lllr Qt!.in Mr.N<'A DAH AND FRED CHRISMAN TACOMA IN SIGNED STATEMENT INSTANT DATE STAT£ THAT I EARLY PART OF JUNE LAST THE PICKED UP SOME STRANGE ROCK FORMATIONS FROM A GRAVE PI MAURI I SLAND WASHINGTON THEY STATE A CIGAR BOX OF THESE ROCK FORMAT I ONS HEY SENT TO RA~ALiiE.B ED I TOR OF VENTURE MAGAZINE I EVANSTON ILLINOIS THEY STATE PL AMER IS ALSO EDITOR OF FANTASY MAGAZINE CHICAGO ILLINO I THEY STATE PA MER ONLY TO MAKE A CHEMICAL ANALYSIS OF THE ROCK FORMA ION DAHL AND CHR IS MAN STATE PALMER ATER WROTE ASKING FOR ADD I TI ONAL SAMPLES STATING HE HAD BEEN UNABLE TO ANALYZE THE MATERIAL DAHL AND CHR I SMAN STATE PALMER A FEW DAYS AFTER THE FLYING DISK STORIES STARTED THE ATTffi PART OF JUNE AST CONTACTED THEM BY PHONE AT TACOMA WASHINGTON SAYir,.t HE WOULD PAY FOR AN EXCLUSIVE STORY IF THE MATERIA WHICH THEY HAD SENT HI WAS FRAGMENTS OF A FL YING DISK DAHL STATES HE WROTE PA MER A ETTER IN WHICH HE STATED THE MATE~~R'f P~RT OF A FLYING pj SK JLAHL AND CHRISMAN ADIHT THI STATWENT WAs}9Jffa'Ey FALSE li.'Jo CHRIS AN STATE THEY HERE CALLED BY KENNET~RNcr'L;J BOU SE IDAHO TO MEET WITH HIM AT THE WHITHROP HOTEL TACOMf HI NGTON JULY THIRTYFIRST AST THEY STATE OLD CA L1li IN ARMY I NTELLIGENCE OFFI ERS FROM VI a t.A.J [PAGE 139] IJ a HI003S 1fM~3 [PAGE 140] PAGE TWO HAM ILT ON FIELD CALIFORNIA AND CAPTAIN EMIL MITH OF UNITED AIR LI NES SEATTLE WASHINGTpN TO ATTEND THE MEETING DAHL AND CHRISMAN CLAIM THEY TOLD THE I NTE LLIG ENCE OFFICERS CAPTAIN DAV IDSON AND LI EUTEN ANT BROWN AS WEL AS KENNETH ARNOLD AND EMI~SMITH EXACTLY HOW THEY GOT THE ROCK FORMATIONS AND THAT THEY HAD NO CONNECTION WITH ANY FLYING DISK DAHL AND CHRISMAN ST ATE THEY FURNISHED SOME OF THE ROCK FORMATION TO THE INTELLIGENT OFICERS AS SAMPLES CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LI EUTEANT BROUN LEFT TACOMA WASH I NGTON I AB TWENTY FIVE TO RETURN TO HAMILTON FIELD CALIFO RN I A ABOUT TWO THIRTY A AUGUST ONE LAST AND WERE KILLED WHEN THEIR PLANE CRASHED AT KELSO WASHINGTON AFTER THE EFT ENGINE BURNED OUT AN EXHAUST ST ACK WHICH IN TURN CAUGHT THE LEFT I NG ON FIRE AND IT BROKE OFF TH CREW CHIEF AND EACH OFFICER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY ERNif(vOTEL ASSOC I ATED PRESS I REMAN TACOMA ADVISED THAT TWO OR THREE DAYS AFTER THE FLYING IS STORIES STARTED HE CONTACTED DAHL TO CHECK A STORY THE SEATTLE POST I NTELLIGENC~R HAD GOTEM'"F\M THE FIRE CHIEF AT HARBOR WASHINGTON TO THE EFFECT THAT DAHL HAD SOME FLYING DISK FRAGMENTS AT THIS TIME DAHL ADMITTED TO VOGEL THE ENTIRE STORE WAS FALSE DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE ARNOLD WAS PAID BY RAY PALMER OF THE FANTASY AGAZ I NE AND POSS I BLY THE BOISE STATEMAN I I NEWSPA.ER TO COME TO TACOMA WASHINGTON AND OBTAIN A STORY FROM HEM REGARDING THE FLYING DISK FRAGMENTS THEY FURTHER STATE THAT I SMITH HAD A [PAGE 141] RE CEfV EO 27 36 JN TERNAl S!CURr I I q_i [PAGE 142] I PAGE THREE FRIEND ON THE CHICAGO TIMES AND WAS POSSIBLY SELLING THE STORY TO fr CHJCAGO TIMES THROUGH THIS FRIEND A CHECK OF THE oRDS AT THE WI{HROP HOTEL TACOMA WHERE ARNOLD HAD HIS ROOM REFLECT THAT ON JULY THIRTY FIRST LAST ARNOLD CALLED PALMER AT A FIVE TWO NAUGHT NAUGT EVANSTON ILLINOIS COLLECT AND ALSO CALLED NAUGHT ONE NAUGHT NINE AT BOISE IDAHO COLLECT ON AUGUST ONE LAST ARNOLD CALLED PALMER AT DEARBORN FIVE TWO NAUGHT NAUGHT CHICAGO COLLECT AND EMIL SMITH CALLED BLANJYf(ODDY AT DEARBORN TWO THREE TWO THREE ON JULY THIRTY FIRST AND AUGUST ONE LAST A TOTAL OF FIVE ANONYMOUS CALLS WERE RECEIVED BY A I TACOMA TIMES REPORTER AND THE UNITED PRESS WIRE MAN AT TAC"MA GIVING IN FORMATION REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP HOTEL OVER THE DISK FRAGMENTS AND STATING THAT THE TWENTY FIVE HAD BEEN SHOT DOWN OR SABOTAGED WHICH KILLED CAPTA~AVIDSON AtJD Ll[UTFA~ROWN INFERRING THAT THIS WAS DONE BECAUSE THE INTELLIGENE OFFICERS WERE CARRYING DISK I FRAGMENTS IN THEIR PLANE DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THESE CALLS COULD ONCT HAVE COME FROM THEMSELVES SMITH OR ARNOD AND DENY THAT THEY ADE THE CALLS NO RECORD OF THE CALLS AS HAVING BEEN MADE FROM ARNOLD-S ROOM IN THE WINTHROP HOTEL CAN BE LOCATED DAHL AND CHRISrAN ARE EVASIVE AS TO JUST WHAT INFOR MAT ION THEY DID FURNISH BY PHONE OR LETTER TO RAY PALMER ERNIE VOGEL UNITED PRESS WIRE MAN TACOMA WASHINCTON STATE IT APPEARS THE BOISE STATEMAN PAPER AND KENNETH ARNOLD HAVE [PAGE 143] RECEfVE 27 36 PH I NT!RNAt S!CUlfTY IF tl I I I [PAGE 144] PAGE FOUR BEEN PUSHING THE PUBLICITY ON THE FLYING DISK STORIES VOGEL STATES THAT ARNOLD JAS EI,ER THE FIRST OR ONE OF THE FIRST TO CLAIM HE HAD SEEN FLYING DISKS DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THAT ARNOLD ADMITTED RE CEIVING MONEY FROM RAY PALMER to COME TO TACOMA TO CHECK T'//f DISK STORY UNLESS ADVISED TO THE CONTRARY BY THE BUREAU THE BUTTE OFFICE AT BOISE IDAHO WILL OBTAIN ALL INFORMATION REGARDING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE BOISE STATEMAN PAPER AND KENNNETH ARNOLD WILL INTERVIElJ KENNETH ARNOLD ROUTE ONE t>'OUNTAIN VIE DRIVE BOISE FOR WHAT INFOR~lTIGJ HE HAS AS TO THE ABOVE FACTS AND WHAT INFORATION HE FURNISHED RAY PALMER AND THE BOISE STATEMAN REGARDING THE TACOrA MEETING AND THE SABOTAGE OF THE TUENTYFIVE THE CHICAGO OFFICE AT CHICAGO WILL I NTERVIEW RAY PAL~ER EDITOR OF FRANTASY MAGAZINE REGARDING HIS CONNECTIONS WITH DAHL AND CHRISMAN AND ARNOLD AND WHAT INFORMATION EACH FURN,ISHED TO HIM WILL ALSO ATTEMPT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT INFORrATION CAPTAIN EMIL SMITH FURNISHED THE CHICAGO TIMES THE SEATTLE OFFICE AT SEATTLE WILL INTERVIEW EMIL SMITH THREE NAUGHT TWO SEVEN WEST LAURELHURST DRIVE ALONG THESE SAME LINES WILL ALSO ASCERTAIN WHAT INFORt1ATION THE FIRr CHIEF AT CHRISMAN WILCOX ACK IN ORD PLS CG OK FBI CG MDG BT OK FBI BT VGW [PAGE 145] Y?E Ul-l REC Aue 39 PM 47 r-.l3 I DEPT USTICE CD Cl rr JO WJO:J3S 1~NH3.J.N Wd Ll 03Al303 [PAGE 146] Pf Ir.I Ir Ro 1t:L'ETYPE 1l'aov Gur•en FBI SEATTLE 12- 47 05 PN PST KLS RECTOR AND SACS CHICAGO AND BUTTE RGENT tr SIGHTED BY FR~ISMM AND HAROLD TACotlA SM DASH REMYTEL AUGUST SEVEN LAST EMIL ITH UNITED A!RLIMES PI~OT INTERVIEWED RE ASSOCIATIONS ijITH HAROLD A DAHL FRED C4RISMAN AND KENNE T1~AR NOLD IN TACOMA WN FROM JULY THIRTYONE TO AUGUST THIRD LAST SMITH HAS RECEIVED PREVIOUS PUBLICITY FOR HAVINC SEEN FLYING DISCS OR SIMILAR OBJECTS ON JULY FOURTH LAST IN CO~PANY WITH HIS CO PILOT RAL EVEMS DURING ROUTtiNE UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT OUT OF BOISE IDAHO SMITH RELATES THAT HE WENT TO TAC0t1A WN FRot SEATTLE ON THURSDAY JULY THIRTYONE LAST IN RESPONSE TO TELEPHONE CALL FROM KENNETH ARNOLD AT TACOtA SMITH CLAir:s HE HAD PREVIOUSLY MET ARNOLD ON TKO OCCASIONS THE FIRST TIME ON JULY FIFTH LAST IN OFFICES OF SEATTLE POST INTELLIGENCER HHERE BOTH WERE INTERVIEWED RE FLYING THEY HAD SEEN ANO ON SECOND OCCASION IN BOISE IDAHO ABOUT THREE -!EEKS AGO Jl.{ILE HE SMITH WAS PASSING THROUGH ON ROUTINE FLIGHT THIS LATTER OCCASION ARNOLD iJAS HJ CO>IPANY OF CAPTAIN1 DA'VIDSQtJ AND LIEUTENAITT DRGJ;T ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS AND J'"O MNSOM OF THE IDAHO STATESMAN NEWSPAPER SMITH CLAH'S NO ACQUAINTANCE WITH DAHL OR CHRISMAN SMI1H RELATES THAT ON JUL THIRTY ONE LAST IN TAC0 WN THE DAHL ND CHRIS AN sroRY WHICH BOTH HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY AD~ITTED TO BI FALSE WAS TOLD TO S~ITH~ARNOLD CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROUN BY C1iRISMAN AND DAHL SUBSEQUEST TO T'HS INTERVIEW CHRISMAN GAVE CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND BRO\iN A BOX OF FRAGMENTS WHICH THEY A~Yls TOO WI~H THEM ON FATAL FLIGHT SMITH STATES IlLA ON iHMY AliC.t F:J:.R~J LAS7 rllV EXEo a AFTER LEARNING or THE CRASH AMD DE TH OF DAVIDSON AND BROUN AR 1oLD C!LLED RAYitflNi,;..PALMrn EDITOR OF Tl Tll nE PRESS IN EV1!8TON IL INOIS AND WAS TOLD BY PALMER TO DISCON~,Ni HIS INVESTIGATIO THE DAHL MONEY [PAGE 147] I I I flJ3S 1VNU J.U ri i:-c rz [PAGE 148] Sr'ITH RELATES Tl1 HE AND APJ~6Ln MADE s~B~E ST ATTEMPTS To co TO AURI ISLAND WITH CRISMAN AND DAHL ON FRIDAY SATURDAY AND SUNDA AUGUST FIRST SECOND AND THIRD DUT WERE PUT OFF BY CHRIS1•1AN 41s DAHL FOR Vl\RI OUS REAS0~1S SMITH STt1 TES THAT REPOF liR[C'ANTZ OF TACOMA TIMES A~ELLO OF UNITED PRESS OFFICE TACOM INFOR MED HHi AND ARNOLD OF THE A1JOt,YMOUS PHONE CALLS AND FROM ACCCURACY OF THE INFO TRANSMITTED BY THESE ANONYMOUS CALLS SMITH BELIEVES THEY WERE MADE BY EITHER DAHL OR CHRISMAN sj'rTH ADi'1ITS CALLING HIS PERSONAL FRIEND MAURIC~DY AVIATION ED I TDR OF CHICAGO TIMES ON FRIDAY AUGUST FIRST AST TO INFOR HIM OR THE TACOMA INCIDENT AS PER A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT BET\o:EEN THEM THAT SMITH WOULD LET RODDY IN ON ANY FLYING DISC STORIES WHICH HE IGHT RUN INTO SMIT ALSO ADMITS THAT HE TOLD REPORTER JOHNSON OF IDAHO STftTESM IN TELEPHONE CONVERSATION SATURDAY NIGHT AUGUST SECOND LAST THAT CAPTAm DAVIDSON AND LI EUTENANT BROWN WERE CARRYING FhACMENTS WITH THEM ON THEIR FATAL FLIGHT SMITH SAYS THAT DAHL TOLD HIM ON SATURDAY NITE AUGUAT SECOND LAST THAT HE DAHL IF CONTACTED BY THE ARMY OR OTHER AUTHORITIES UAS GOING TO SAY THAT THE EN IRE STORY WAS A HOAX SMITH STATES THAT HE TOLD HIS COi'PLETE STORY TO MAJOi S'\NDERS OF ilCCORD FIELD TAco:·A ON SUNDAY 0RM INC AUGUST THIRD LAST AND THAT ARNOLD LEFT TACOMA UNLESS ADVISED TO CONTRARY LANTZ AND liORE LLO WHO ARE BOTH TACOMA NEWSPAPERMEN ENTIONED ABOVE WILL NOT BE CONTACTED FOR VERIFICATION OF Ila SMITHS STC~Y ABOVE UNABLE TO LOCATE FIRE CHIEF OF HARBOR TO rR IFY INFOP.MAT I ON RECEIVED BY HIM FROM DAHL AND CHRISMAN S_I~CE THIS STORY OJU T...;n ru s:ATTLE PAPER THIS LEAr IS I INTtRVIEWS WIT BOVE HILL DAHL AND CHRISMAN WILCOX FBI WA BW Bf.ING DI!.- INEED ETT£ COtTAINING COMPLETER II OF IER PLS 10- 30 PM OK OK FBI CG DBR BT FBI BT HEW [PAGE 149] I Ztvr:i Lf.TYPE A ue 10 33 PN c..n i err ITI -ii en rn a IC [PAGE 150] Mr ra Mr Mr Cun Ur Mr Ur -ton 111r Qu CA IUUAU OJ YEltlGAflN DlPUTIEIIT Of WlllCI ttt,tS ltCTNI WASHINGTON FROM SFRAN 8-6-47 12-09 PM ECTOR URGENT EL,..XING DISCS SM RE PORT~AND TELETYPE REFERENCING PHONE FROM MR LADD AT BUREAU ONE PM AUGUST FIFTH LAST A-TWO SAN FRAN CISCO UNABLE TO VERIFY LT COL DONALD SPRINGER A-TWO HAMILTON FIELD IN CHARGE OF INVESTIGATION BY A:.rwo IS THOUGHT BY A-TWO TO BE RETURNING FROM KELSO WASHINGTON AREA HAVING GONE TO KE UPON LEARNING OF DEATHS OF AAF INVESTIGATORS MENTIONED IN REFERENCE TELETYPE HE PLANNED UPON DEPARTURE TO OBTAIN RESULTS OF AAF INVESTIGATORS OR REINTERVIEW PERSONS MENTIONED IN REFERENCED TEL ETYPE SPRINGER WILL BE CONTACTED UPON HIS RETURN AND BUREAU ADVISED 630C KIMBALL [PAGE 151] n1:c vEo t~R¥PE'llf/"° A ue rM I I I I I i'T1 [PAGE 152] I EP 10 TELETYPE oM URGEilT [PAGE 153] Lr r,d I I cb snr lO 1d30 J'rl 13 i uo1 [PAGE 154] ibbl?ral ilur.eau nf lnu1?sti9ation Unifl?h uit.l?s i11?purtm1?nt of Yust icl New York IN REPLY PLEASE REFER TO I LE September 1947 Directo FBI Attention FBI Laboratory Re Mrs A IS Informant Dear Sir Reference is made to Bureau lette te July 21 addressed to Mrs A SARBANIS 66 Notr Dame Avenue HioksVl sland New York a copy of which was sent to the New York Office Yrs SARBANIS was interviewed by Special Agent William A Johnson on August 12 194 at which time she advised that this coded message had appeared in Newsday the local newspaper of Nassau and Suffolk County Long Island New York She stated that the message had appeared in the County Irritant 11 a feature of this paper and had been signed Radio Ham JACK ALTSCHUL City Editor of 11 Newsday Hempstead New York was interviewed and advised that this article had been sent to the newspaper by letter which was signed Radio Ham and explained that he had no way of determining the identity of the writer Mr ALTSCHUL stated that it was his opinion that the code had been made up by some local 11 screwball who had been affected by all he newspaper publicity th at had been give at that time to the story abou fly:i.ng discs There is enclosed an article appearing in the July 12th issue of Newsdayl concerning this coded message which might be of interest in this matter Unless advised to the contrary no furtaer effort is being made to establish the identity of the person who signed himself Radio Ham [PAGE 155] [PAGE 156] I J.i COUNTy IRRITANT lrom our Mail lox Coming His Wa er rick-Out all day yesterday looking for a house to re nt but no luck I yot so disgusted I en ded up in a tavern and got lit When I got home and went in the house I SAW FLYING SAUCERS IN AIR -No Foolin Gar bl es es tbury 11 more Radio Ham's message seems to be from so me gentleman occupying an Oly mpian height As with many of th se erudite souls the sender can no resist including a few garbles in his code Or is our Ham guilty Here is your message TffiED OF A NONSENSE WONT AWAIT ATOMIC WAR DISTURB JNG SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT FL YING DISKS AND WILL SET UP WORLD UNDER MARTIANS LA TE THIS YEAR Simple transposition Hope all your readers are appropriately warned -Stephen Schuster Other ungarblers got outlaw ATLAW instea of await isrupting instea of i sturb I Miss Rita Flood of ashington expects the wo ld ENCLOSUR der to be set up un der i ter Is Radio Ham satisfied Erl BECOM.lilf [PAGE 157] STANDAf!-0 FORM NO 64 Office Memorandum UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT Coy DATE TO 9/17/47 Mr Tolson llr A Tam FROM Cl eve land Mr Clegg Mr Glav1-n llr SUBJECT Mrs A rbanis Is 11r 1'racy Informant llr carso-n Mr Egan._-_-_-_- Mr urnea hrbo-t- You will recall that a letter was received from the Ml PeM-,ng=t=on llr Qu!nn Tam above captioned individual dated July 10 19 in hich she Tel Room Mr Neas•- inclosed a newspaper clipping signed Radio Ham This news M!ss Ho M188Gan<ly paper clipping contained a coded message which rs Sarbanis decoded The FBI Laboratory checked Afrs Sarbanis decoding of this message and advised that it was substantially correct The Labocatory decvding of the message is being set forth below TI RED OF HUMAN NONSENSE i ONT AWAIT A MIC WAR DISRUPTING ORDER SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT"7 LYI NG DISKS AND ILL SET UP WORLD ORDER UNDER ARTIANS LATE THIS YEAR The New York OJ/ice was asked to interview Mrs Sarbanis to determine from what newspaper the clipping in question was obtained They were further instructed to contact this newspaper in effort to ascertain the identity of the er son who sent in the coded message in order that the person might be interviewed for information a ncerning the alleged receipt of the coded messag By let te dated September 947 the New York Office advised that they had ascertained from Mrs Sarbanis that the coded message had appeared in 11 Newsday the local newspaper of Nassau and Suffolk County Long Island New York The City Editor of this news paper stated that the original had been signed only Radio Ham and knew of no way of dete rmining the identity of the write It was the City Editor opinion that the code had been made up by some local screwb a ll who had been affected by all of the newspaper publicity that had been given to stories concerning flying discs The FBI Laboratory has now advised that the FCC maintains their amateur records by a geogra hical br ea kdown as well as by call tters and that the Laboratory could possibly get the names of all amateurs in the Bellmore Long Island New York Section in the event it is desired that another attemit be made to identify the person who sent this coded message to the News~ay rl RECOMMENDATION It is recommended th further action be taken in connection with this mat in view the opinion xp~essed by the City Edi tor of the News day that the ette rebe i\,-ed by hf si ned 11 Radio Ham was from some local screwbat 17,6 [PAGE 158] i LJilS(II iO 1.a::!O 80 v~npt JIN rlc hi ZI rl i/\l;JJ d3S I I [PAGE 159] Office Memorandum NI ED TATE GOVER MENT TO ireotor FBI Attentions Assistant DATE irector LADD FRO SAC San Francisco SUBJECT LYIN DISCS There is transmitted herewith for the information of the Bureau a report received from Lieutenant Co onel DONALD PRINGER Hamilton Field Cal i fornia conta i ning the results of an investigation by his office concerning the reported sighting of flying discs In addition to containing he detai ed descriptions of what was allegedly seen by several persons the Bureau's attention is particularly called to the first memorandum setting forth the notes of Agent FRANK tRONN CIC Fourth Air Force concerning an interview he had with Mr KENNETH RNOLD Box 387 Boise Idaho who reported that on July 12 1947 he had seen ine strange objects flying over the Caacade Mountain Range of Washington State It will be noted that ere Agent BRO\'IN reports that"Mr ARNOLD is very outspoken and somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the Un i ted States Army Air Forces and the FBI for not having made an investigation of this matter sooner The thought has occurred to me that the Bureau might desire to have an agent of the Butte Office contact Mr ARNOLD and explain to him our lack jurisdiction in such matters HMK,emb Enclosure Au thority NND 90986 cg [PAGE 160] CQ-VI JUNG l'H AI FORCE Cl-j i..A~~mt.Jhj.~f t~rr Hamil ton Fie Ce li ornie Trru Flying Discs INVEST GATioN llADE AT P.~l.m Siu:ing§ Qalif B.oi.s..e Idci.ho and Hami t.on Field s;alifo ni a CoNTRoLLING OFFICE Ai1 f~n.s L.C mman.d FILE No D333 5_ID 4AF-l208- Il PERio coVEREo ft.Qm..1.0 Jul t.o 1.a...J.ul 4.7 CA.SE CLASSIFICATION f.Jl~i9~1lt DA TE a Jul 94 STAros CASE r.~mU.ng REASON FOR INVESTIGATION Investigat i on initiated at the request of Headquarte Ai Defense Coillllland reference let er Headquarters Air Defense Command dated Jul 47 il D333 ID subject Investigation of Flying Discs SYNOPSIS Flying\~s first reported in this area 24 June 1947 near Rainier Wash by Kenneth nold Incl Exhibit A Unidentified object reported July 1947 at app oximately 1277 near Boise Idaho by David Johnson Aviation ditor Idaho Dai Statesman Inc Exhibit Unidentified objects repo ted by Capt J\Smith United Ai Lines Pilot July 1947 ei ht minutes out of Boise Idaho Incl MOIC Incl News Clippings dated July 1947 Record check of law en\o;oement agencies public utilities and local residences revealed no reco of Richard~Rankin in Palm Springs Inc Unidentified objects repori_ed Jul 1947 at 1245 ave ing nor theast over Hami ton Field by s/sgt Edward Ry Bake Inc xhibit I Unidentified objects reported over rand Canyon Arizona 0910 ST by Lt McGinty USN Incl and in vicinity of Lake Mead by Lt Bl Armstr ong Hq Tenth ir Poree Brooks Field Texas I cl I Extent of publicity in local area indicated by press cl ippings Inc DISTRIBUTION APPROVED AAF ADC 4AF Fi es 8Nl"lll lfN'JIIA.t JUL 241 W,D M,G Form.No 11 A pril 19-« Tbid ou pened.e orm No 19 wlilcb will be i pt ol thia reYiDOo [PAGE 161] Inoident 4AF 1208 I 16 July 1947 MEMORANID:U FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE On 12 July 1947 Kenneth Arnold Box 387 Boise Idaho was interviewed in re ga rd to the re port by l!r Arnold that he saw strange object flying over the Cascade ountain ange of fashington State on July 25th Mr Arnold voluntarily agreed to ive the intervieW'9r a written report of exactly what he ad seen on the above mentioned date The written re port of Ur Arnold attached to this re port as -..xhibit A AOEUT'S NOTES llr Arnold a oan or 32 years or age being narried and tho father of children Ee is well thoutht of in the co'1llllunity in whioh he i ve being ary much the fanily man and frou all appearances a very good rov ide for his family Arnold has recently pu rohased a hone on the outskirts of oise rec ently -:>urchased a ts ooo airplane in which to conduct his business to the extent of which is explained in the atto.ohed exhibit It is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Arnold actually saw what he stated that he saw It is difficult to believe that a Man of lr Arnold oharaoter and a pp arent integrity would state that he saw objects and write up a report to the extent that he did if he did not see them To further Yr Arnold can write a report of the oheraoter thnt he did while not having seen the objects that he claimed he saw it is the opinion of tho interviewer that er Arnold is in th wrong II business thnt he should bo writinr Buck Roge rs notion I.I?- Arnold is very outsRoken nnd somewhat bitte in his op inions of the leaders of the Army Air Forces R.Dd nie Federnl tfureau of Investigation for not having made an investigation of this matter sooner To ut all of the statecents made by Ur Arnold in this report would make it a voluminous volumo However a~er having cheoked an aeronautical map of the area over hioh Mr Arnold claims that he saw the objects it was determined that all state ents ade by Mr Arnold in regard to the distano os involved speed of tho objects oourse oV the objects and site of the obj ects could very possibly bo facts The distances mentioned by Mr Arnold in his report are within a sho rt istance of the actual distances on aeronautical charts of this area although Arnold has never consulted aeronautical charts of the type the Anny uses Mr Arnold stated that his busine ss had suffered reatly since his report on July 25 due to the fact that at every stop on his business routes large roups of peop le were waiting to question him as to just what he had soon tr Arnold stated further that if ho at any tine in the future sow anything in the sky to quote lli- Arnold diroot ly if I saw a ten story building I I [PAGE 162] Incident 4AF 1208 I flying throu gh the air I would ne ver say a word a bout i due to the fact that he has been ridiculed by the ress to such an extent that he is racticall a moron in the eyes of the majority of he opulation of the Un it ed tates Incl xhibit A FRANK BROifN S/A CIC 4th AF I [PAGE 163] OME LIFi DATA ON KENNETH ARN I was born Uarch 29 1915 in-Subeka innesota l,~y father's nru::ie was Ed,m rd Erb Arnold my mother maiden name was Be rtha arden I we.s a resident of innesota until I was six years old whon my family oved to Scobey ontana where they homesteaded rand fathe Ro land Arnold also homesteaded in Scobey ontana and became quite prom inent in olitical circles alon with Burton Whee ler the famous lontana senator I went to rade school and high school at inot forth Dakota I entered scouting at twelve yea rs of age and achieved the rank of Eagle scout be.fore I was fourteen My former scout executive was Prescott now a re ional commissioner for the Boy Scouts in Kansas City Kansas As a boy I was interested in athletics and was selected as an all state end in 1932 a nd 933 in the state of North Dakota I entered the Olympic trials in fan cy diving in 1932 I was a Red ross Li fe Saving xaminer during the ye ars of 932 33 and 34 I taught swimming and diving at scout camps and th unici pa pool in lli not no rth akota I went to the University of ll innesot wh ere I swam and did ancy diving under Neils Thorpe and also pl ayed football under Bernie Bi erman but upon entering co ll ege I 1'9.S unable to continue ny football career because of an injured knee high school football coach was Glenn Jarrett who is now the head foo tball coach of the niversity of orth Dakota I had litt or no finances and my ambition in furthering my ed i cation in college was throu gh my·ath letics As a boy in inot North Dakota I did a good deal of dog sled racin laced first with 11\Y dog in 1930 in the Lions lub Dog Derby In 1938 I went to work for Red Comet Inc of Littleton Co orado a manufaoturer of automatic fire fi hting apparatus In 193 I was made district anager for them over a art of the western states and in 1940 I established my own fire control supply known as the Great Yestern Fire C6ntrol Supply I have been working as an independent fire control engineer since and I handle dist ri ute sell and install all types of automat i and manual fi re fighting equipment in the rural areas over five wester states Jy flying experience started as a boy in inot North Dakota where I took 11\Y first flyin lesson fr om Ea rl Vance who was originally from reat Fal llon tana Due to the hi gh cost at at time I was unable to oo ntinue m.y flyin and did not ly of any reat consequence until 1943 I was given my pi ot cert ificate by Ed Leach a senior CAA inspector of Portland Oregon and for the la st three years have owned my own airp ane coverin my entire territory with same and flying from or ty to one hundred hours per month since Due to the fact th at I use an airplane entirely in my work in January of this ear I purchased a new Callair airplane which is an airplane designed for high altitude take-offs and short rou gh field use In the type or flyin I do it a kes a great deal of practice and judgment to be able to land in most any cow pasture and et out without injurin your airplane the runways are ve ry limited and the altitude is very high in some of the fields and places I have to go in my work To date I ha ve landed in 823 cow pastures in mountain meadows and in over a thousand hours a flat tire has been reatest mishap I co NFI Ld [PAGE 164] jO NFI)?E Tii~L BY KENNETH ARNpLD The fo ll owing st or of what I observed ove the Cascade mo ntains as impossib a it may seem is positi el true I neve a sked nor wanted any notoriety for just accidently bei ng in the ight spot at the ight time to obse rv what I did I reported somethin that I know any pi ot would have epor ted I do think that in any way my obserTation was due to any sensi ity of eye sight or judgment than what is considered normal for any pi ot On June 24th Tuesday 1947 I had finished my work for the Cent al Air Service at Chehalis Washington and at about two cl ock I -to ok off fr om Chehal is Washington airpo with the intention of going to Yakima Wash fy trip was delayed fo an hour to search for a large marine transport that supposedly went down near or around the southwest side of Rninier in the state of Washington and to date has neTer been found I ew direct toward Rainier after reaching an altitude of about 500 eet which is the ap proximate elevation of the hi gh lateau om which Mt Rainier ises I had made one sweep of this hi gh plateau to the westward sea chi ng a of the various ridges fo this marine ship and flew to the west down and nea the ridge side of the canyon wher Ashford Washington is ocat ed Unable to see anything that looked like the lost ship I ma.de a 360 degr ee turn to the ight and above the little city of ineral starting again towa Mt Rainier I cl imbed back to an alti ude of app oximately 200 feet The ai was so smooth that day that it was a eal pl easu flying and as most pilots do when the air is smooth and they ar ying at a hi he a titude I immed out my a i pl ane in the di ect i on of Yakima Washington hich was al mo st di ectly east of my position and simply sat in my pl ane ob serving the sky and the ter ain The wa a DC the left and to the rear of me a pproximate fif een i les distance and I should judge at 4,000 oot elevation The sky and ai was as clear as crystal I hadn own more than two or three minut es on my co ur se when a ri ght flash re fl ected on my ai plane It sta rtl ed me as I thought I was too close to some othe ai craft I looked ev ery pl ace in the sky and couldn find wher the ef ec i on had come from until I ooked to the left and the nor th of Rainie whe I obse rv ed a chain of ni ne peculia looking ai craft ying om no rt to south at approximate 500 feet eleTation and going seemingl i a definite di ect i on of about 170 degr ees They we app oaching Rainie ve apidly and I merely assumed they were jet pl anes Anyhow I discovered that this was where the ef ec tion had come from as tw or thr of them ev er few seconds wou di or hange thei cou se slightly just enough for the sun to st ike them at an ang that eflected brightly on plane These objects bein quite far away I was unabl for a few seconds make out their shape or their formation Ve shor tly they appr oached Mt Rainier and I obser ed thei outline against the sn ow quite a i nl I thought it was er peculia that I couldn find thei tai but assumed they we some type of jet plane I was determ i ned to clock their speed as I had two definite points I could cl ock them by the air was so clear that it was very easy to see objects and dete mine their approximate shape and size at al ost fifty miles that day I re ember distinctly that my sweep second hand on my ei ht day clock which is loca ed on my instrument anel read one minute to as the fi st object of this formation pa sed the southe edge of Mt Rainier I watched these objects with gr eat inte est as I had never befo obee rv ed [PAGE 165] airplanes flying so close to the m9untain tops flying di ectly south to southeast down the hog back of a mountain ange I would estimate thei elevation could have varied a thousand feet one way or anothe up or down but they were pretty much on the horizon to me which would indicate they were near the same el evation as I was They ew like many times I have observed geese to in a athe diagona ohain ike ine as if they were linked togethe They seemed to hol a definite direction but rather swerved in and out of the high mountain peaks Their speed at the time did not impress me particularly because I knew that our army and air forces had anes at went very fast What kept bot he ing me as I wo.t hed them flip and flash in the sun ri gh a ong tpeir path was the a ot that I oouldn make out any tai on them and I am su that any pi ot wou justify more than a second look at such a plane I obse ved them quite pl ainly and I estimate my distance om them which was al most at ri ght angles to be between wenty to twenty-five mi es knew they ust be very large to obse rv their shape at that distance even on as clear a day as it was that Tuesday In fact I compared a zeus fastener or cowling tool I had in my pocket with holding it up on hem and holding it up on the DC that I could observe at quite a distance to my left and they seemed smaller than the DC but I should jud ge their span woule have been as wide as the fur the rest eng ines on each sid of the fuselage of the DC The ore I observed these objects the Mo re upset I became as I am accustomed and familiar with most all objects flying whether I am cl ose the round or at higher altitudes I observed the chain of these objects passing another high sno,.,- covered ridge in between Rainier and Adams and as th first one was passing the south crest of this rid ge the last object was ente rin the northern crest of the rid ge As I was flying in the direction of this particular rid ge I measured it and found it to be approximately fi ve miles so I could safely assune that the chain of th ese saucer like objects were at least five miles lon I could quite accurate1 determine their path wny due to the faot that there wore several high peaks tha were a little this side of the as well as hibher peaks on the other ide of their pathway As the lest unit of this formation passed the southern mo st hig snow cover ed or st of I.'t Ada ms I looked at my sweep second hand and it showed that thoy had avo ll ed the istance in one minute and fo ty two seconds ven at the tiree this timing did not upset me as I felt confident after I would and there would be 3ome explanation of wh at I saw A numbe of news men and experts suggested that I might have be en seeing ef ections or even a mir age This I know to be absolutely false as I observed these objects not onl throu gh the lass of my airp ane but turned my airplane sideways wher I coul open my window and ob serve the with a completely unobstructed ie iithout sun gl asses Even though two minutes seems like a very short time gr ound in the air in two minutes time a pilot oan observe things nd anything within his sight of vision pr obably as sixty ti 11e I ontinued my sea ch for the marine plane for another twenty minutes and whi sea chin for this marine plane observed kept oing throu gh my mind I became more distu taking last look at Tieton Reservoir I headed for Yak [PAGE 166] I might add that my complete obser ation of these objects which I could even follow by their flashes as they assed Adams was around two and one half or three minutes although by the time they reached Adams they we re out of my range of vision as far as determining shape or form Of course when the sun reflected from one or two or three of these units they appeared to be coopletely round but I am kain a drawin to the best of my ability which I am including as to the shape I observed these objects to be a.s they passed the snow covered id ge as wall as Mt ainie When these objects were flying approximately st ai ht and evel they were just a bl ack thin line and when they flipped waR the only time I could get a judgment as to their size Xhewe objects were holdin an a mo st consta nt elevation they did not seem to be goin up or to be coming down such as would be the case of rockets or artil ery shel I am convinced in own mind that they were some type of ai plane even thou gh they didn't confo rm with he many aspects of the conventional type of planes that I know Al though these objects ha ve been repo rted by any other observers throughout the United tates there have be en six or seven other accounts written by some of these observe that I ca tr thfu lly say must have ob servied fthaasa~etthiijzJihat I did;rEa ti~ula rly the descriptions of the three Western/Xfr Linijsf~mp oyees the/genitiman rom lclahona City and the lo como tive engineer in I ll inois plus Capt Smith an Co-Pilo Stevens of United Air Lines Some descriptions could not be very aco urate:itake from the gr ound unless these sauce r-l ike disks were at quite a gr eat height and there is a possib ity that all of the people who obse rv ed pecu iar bj ects oou ld ha ve seen the same thing I did but it would have been ve diffi cult f~Oll the ground to observe these for more than fou or five seconds and he re is always the possibi i of atmospheri moisture and dust near the gr ound which co uld distort one's ision I have in my possession letters from all ov er the i ted States and people who profess that these objects have been observed over oth er ortions of the world principal Sweden Bennuda and Califo ni a I wou have given almost anything that day to have ad a movie came a with a te ephoto ens and rom now on I wil never be without one but to continue further with my story When I lan ded at th Yakim a iash airpo I described what I had seen to my very good friend Al Baxter who istened patiently and was very oourteous but i~a jo kin wa di dn believe me I id not accurately measure the distance/t e\p thes wo mountains unti I anded at Pendleton Oregon that sane day ere I tol a number of pilot iends of mine what I had obse ved and they di not sco ff or laugh but suggested they might be guided missiles or something new In fact se ver al fo mer Ar my pi ots informed me that they had been brie fed befor going into combat over seas that they might see objects of simi ar shApe and design as I desc ibed and assured me that I wasn dreaming or goi ng crazy I quote Sonny obinson a former Army Air Forces il bt who is now oper a ting dusting operations at Pendleton egon l"ihat you ob se rved I am con vinced is some type of jet or rocket propelled ship tha is in he process of being tested by our overnment or even it could possi ly be by some for i overnment Anyhow he ne Y1s that I had bserved these spread ve ry J.i.et ly and before ni ht was over I was receivin telephone calls from al a ris of the world and to date I have not rec ived one telephone call or one let te of scoffing or disbelief The only dit;belief at I know of was what wa is prin ed in the pape I ook at his who ordeal as not somethin f'unny as some peopl have made it out to be To me it is mig hty s~rious and since I vidently did [PAGE 167] observe something that at least Mr John Doe on the street corner or Pete Andrews on the ranch has ne ver hea rd about is no reason that it does not exist ven thou gh I openly invited an investigation by the Arrey and the FBI as to the authenticity of my story or a mental or a physica examination as to my capabilities I have received no inte es from th ese two important protective forces of our country I will go so far as to assume that any report I ga ve to the United and Associated Press and over the radio on two diffe ent occasions hich apparently set the nation buzzing if our Li ilitary Intel igence was not aware of what I observed they would be he ver first people that I could expect as visitors I have received lots of requests from peop le who told me to make a lot of wild guesses I have based what I have written here in this article on positive facts and as far as guessing what it was I observed it is just as much a mystery to me as it is to the rest of the world My pilot license is 333487 I fly a Callair airplane it is a three place sing le engine land ship that is desi gned and manufactured at Arton Wyoming as an extreme high erformance high altitude airplane that was made for mountain work The national certificate of my plane is 33355 Kenneth Arnold Box 587 Boise Idaho They seemed lon ge than wide their thickness vras about l/20th of their width irror ri ght They did not appear to me to whirl or spin but see med in fixed position I have made drawin Kenneth Arnold CONFIDENTIJ A [PAGE 168] Incident 4AF 1208 I 16 July 947 MEMORANDUlA FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE On 12 Ju 1947 a oa ll was made at the newspaper of fice of the Idaho a il Statesman oise Idaho The aviatio editor of the pape Mr Da id Johnson was in terviewed in re ga rd to how we ll he knew Kenneth Arnold of Bo ise Ida ho and as to the credibility of any statement made by Arnold The purpose of this inte rvi ew wa an attempt to veri fy statements ade by Kenneth Arno ld on 26 June 94 to various national news services to the effect th at he Mr Arnol had seen objects flying in the air abo ve the Cascade ountain Range of as hing ton These objec ts were subsequently referre to as ying saucers or fl ying isks and will he in-a~er be referred to as such in this re po Mr Johnson stated that he had known Arno for quite a pe rio of time havin had ations with Arno on va rious occasions due to the fact tha both he Johnson and Arnold we private lier and fr equen tl go toge ther to a shop Mr Johnson stated that as far as he was co ncerned anythin Arnol said cou ld be taken very seriously and that he Johnson ac:tually believed that Arnold had seen the af or ementioned flying disks Mr Johns on stated that af'ter Arnol repo rted av in seen the flyi ng d~s ks that the editor of the paper had assi gned hi tLr Johnson the ass gnment of taking the airp ane be onging to the newspaper and exhausting al erro rts to prove or disprove th o·b i of yin disk having be seen i the northwest ar ea The res lts of th1s assi gumo t;o John son and what he subsequently sa.w is put fo rt in a sworn st atement signed by Mr Johnson attached to this rep ort as Exh ibit AGENT NOT ES J:r John son is a man of appr oximate ly 33 I to 35 years of age Fr om al appo ara nces he is a very reserved type o.f p~r son Mr Johnson has ogged 2800 hour of flying time in various typ~s ai anes up to and inc ludin mu lti -engine ai craft During pa of the war yea rs Johnso wa the first pi ot of a 29 type ai cr aft be in assi gned-t the Twent ieth USA.AF and stationed on ini an Island in the Paci £ic I is he per sona opini on of he interviewer that Johnson actuolly saw what he states tha he saw in he at ta ched re po rt It is al so he op i ni on o.f he interviewer that Mr Johnson ould have much more to ose than ain and wo uld have to be very strongly convinced that he actua ll sa son ething befo re he wou report such an incident and open himse fo he rid i cq le tha would ac company such a eport 11 11 Incb Exhibit S/A CIC lfth AF FR.A.NJC BRO WN [PAGE 169] ea ur r.n n.i- S~atement of David Johnson at Boise Idaho July 12 1947 To i1hoa It Jlay Concer On the sixth day of July 1947 I received from James Brown gener nl manager or the Statesman ewspapers incorpo ated in Ida.ho as The StateS1!18.n Pr i nting com any an assignment which was in substance 11 Conduct an aeria sea ch or the northJirest states in an effort to see and photog aph a flyi ng disc Conduct this pat ol for so on a time as you be i eve reasonab or unt il you see a flying disc In acc rda ce to these instructio I took the Sta est'lan airp ane and with Kenneth Arno as pas senge flew a seven and one ha hour mission on the seventh day of July 194 This mi ssion wa without esult It cov ered an area emb aci the conf i nes of the Hanford plant in ashington and territory between and around Jit Rainier and Pt Adams where Arnold fi rst reported seeing objects hencefo th described as saucers or discs On the eighth dny of July 1947 I took an AT of the 190th Fight er squadron Idaho nationa Guo.rd of wh ich I nm a member and flew to northe rt I daho into north,vestern Mo ntana briefly to Spok ane ashington e.nd back to 3oise by vre.y of lalla Walla 17e.shington and Pendleton Oregon This sea ch also was negative the ninth day of Jul 1947 I continued the search a.gain using a ational guard AT this time ente rin fforts over the Ov,yhee mo untains west and south,rest of oise a portion of the ountain Home desert on a track southe a st of the Mo untain Horne e.rmy ai base thence into the Sawtooth moun tain and back in the gene al direction of Boise on a line carryin me wel to he nor th of the Sha fe butte forest service lookout station into the Bo rse5 hoe end area and hence back in a soutlnveste ly irec ion to a oint between oise and the vi ll age of Me idian west of oise a few mi Du ing this search which asted appr ximately two and one ha hours I fl ow un er and around apidly formin cumulus clouds over that ar ea known as the Cai:cas Prairie east of Bo ise The clouds were nea the villa ge of Fai rfield in tha val ey and Fai rfie is 75 miles ai line distance east of oise At tha timo I saw nothing in the vicinity of hese clouds At the ti me I reached the point between Boise and eridian I was yin at an a titude of 14 000 feet ean sea ve which woul be a mean aver age of 000 feet above the earth i this area not oonsidering errors in the alti eter induced ei the by baromet ic changes since my takeoff or by the tem per atu at that altitude I turned the aircraft on an easterly hes.dine ointi ng toward ow en Field and had ovm on that course for perhaps a minute wh en the sud en appeared in the eft hand portion of my fie of vision an obje ct which was bl ack and round I immediate cente ed aze on the object At that time due to i ts rr at ic mo ve ment I thought I was seeing a weathe bal oon I ca ll ed the CAA co mn un i cation stat i on at Boise and asked if the weather sta ion ha ecently ea ed a ba loon The re pl from co mm unicator Al ber son was at the bu reau had not I do not em mbe his exact wo ds I am under the impr ession he said not several hours or go ve me the xact ti me of the revious elease which va around 08 30 hat day [PAGE 170] Up on he a ring this response I turned the aircraft oadside to the ob ect pulled back the plexig a covering to avoid any distortion took my camera om the map case and exposed about 10 seconds duration of eight millimeter motion picture fi During the time the camera was at eye level I could not see the object be cause of minuteness of scope introduced by the optical view finder with which the camera an Eastman was equipped Taking the camera away and once again centering my gaze on the object I observed it to roll so that its edge was presented to me At this time it flashed once in the sunlight It then ap~eared as a thin black line It then performed a maneuver which looked as if it had begun a slo,v roll or a barrel roll which instead of being com pleted was broken off at about the 180 degree point The object rolled out of the top of the maneuver at this point and I lost sight of it rhis entire performance was observed against the background of clouds previously formin£ over the Camas Prairie The object appeared to me relatively as the size of a twenty five cent piece I do not know hov1 far away was I do 1ot know nor can I truthfully estimate its speed I can only say it was not aD airpla>1e and if it was at a very sreat distance from me its speed Ylas great taking into consider at on that apparent speed is reduced to the viewer if an object is a very great i Btance away I forgot to look at my clock to determine the exact time I saw the object The OAA's log of radio contacts shows my f'irst contact to rave teen made at 12 17 hours But a few seconds elap~ed between the time I f'irst sow the object and the time I called the 0AA station I subsequent related over the radio a description of what I saw and communicator hlbertson may remenber it The control tower may have a recording of the conversation I have not checked to determine The purpose of my relating over the air what I saw was to enable ranid tra'!'lsr>tission of the report to the newspaper for at that time I was on assignment and my energies thenceforth were devoted to trans mitting the information and conducting a further search which I did after landing for fuel and to make some telephone calls rhe next search begun within half an hour after landing from the first one consumed another two hours but as negative I explored thoroughly the region where I saw the object Immediately after eighting the object I asked if tPere were other aircraft in the area There v1as a 51 of the 190th squadron practic irig maneuvers in the vicin:lty of Auna but that was behind me A 82 passed over Boise but I saw that aircraft go beneath me by some 000 feet The 51 in the vie ini ty of l\una proceeded to the area v1here I saw the objec1 at my request and conducted a search It was neg a i ve During the afternoon flights o.f 5ls were sent out to cover the a and some of them flew h18h altitude missions on oxygen These earche were negative I was subsequently informed that personnel on both the United Air Li nes side of Gowen fleld and on the national guard side obse rv ed a glack object maneuvering in f'ront of the same cloud formation hich by now had grown so that the clouds reached a probable height of 000 or 20 000 feet from a m3an base of 13 500 or 14 000 feet mean sea level Three of these men were national guard i;ersonnel and I talked to them CONFIDENT [PAGE 171] saw it This statement is made voluntarily and freely in response to the request of Mr Br own and Captain Davidson who called on me this morning David Johnson Subscribed and sworn to before me a notary public this 12th day of July 1947 Geo Flaherty Nota ry public for Ada county Idaho My commission expires Jan 1949 [PAGE 172] jO NFD I T'T I I I I Chart to which reference is made on page six statement of David Johnson I This design portrays the movements of the object to which reference is made in the attached statement At all times the object appeared as black Positions and show the jerky rising motion Position is where the object rolled presenting its edge to me It then followed the dotted line rolling over the top of the maneuver and disappearing at position CONFIDE NTIP.t [PAGE 173] I ON~I ENJ a CoJ:l as~ing them to describe what they saw before te l'i 1ng them my story in order to avoid suggestion or inrerence of a leading nature They saw the object from the grou1id while I was on my second search l'hey believed the time to have been 14;00 hours The object peri'ormed in the same erratic manner they said as I observed The above is the extent of the story and information concerning myself is now in order I have approximately 2800 hours of flying time in equipment ranging from primary trainers to B-29s Of course that does not in crease my powers of observation except as to those practiced daily by an airman It does not make my eyesight any shurper except again a to the incidental demands upon the eyes of a pilot At the time of the experience related above I had flown four teen and one half hours on an assignment to find a disc and if possible to photograph it In all frankness I was tired I may have been suffering although slightly from want of oxygen Prior to sighting the object I had concluded there was no point in pressine the search that I probably v1ould never see the disc like objects referred to by Arnold na by Captain Smith of United Air Lines At all times during the search both on that day and the t~o preceeding days particularly when I was with Arnold I had literally talked to myself to keep beating into my head that I vo uld not fall victim to the power of suggestion or self hypnosis arising from a naturally very intent desire to find a disc and bring success to the assignment given me I therefore do not believe that I was the victim of suggestion or hypnosis I am familiar v.d th the optical illusion of a fixed object beginning to move after it is watched a sufficient length of time I know what tricks the eyes will play as to moving bodies and have arned of this particularly during night formation flying I saw the object appear suddenly If it had moved in a jerky fashion as it did at first for the full length of time I observed it I would not be so strong in saying that I saw something not an aircraft not a ballo'on and not a corpuscle moving across the retina of either eye The maneuver described by the object when its edge was presented me convinces me that I saw an object actually i;:erforming in an erratic flight path The question remains of course whether I saw it The motion picture fi IJt developed and processed by Stohr in the Eastman laboratories at 241 Battery Street San Francisco showed no trace of any object Stohr says that if it was more than a mile distant from me at the si I described the ob ect would not have registered suffic iently on the film to be shown He said it probably was too far away to be apparent even through great enlargement of th negative and enlargement i that case is lim i ted because of the i ze of the film and the fact I did not have any telescopic equ i pment on the lens The exposure was 16 stop set at infinity at a speed of 16 frames per second I have worried over this matter a great deal since seeing it I took myself aside 11 and said come now Johnson don't be stupid But I cannot bring myself to the point of thinking I did not see thing The impression of the moment was too vivid too realist I knew in the air when I saw that partial slow roll or barr8l that I was not a victim of illusion I trust this matter will be of help to those investigati flying disc phenomena which have been reported A chart is attached depicting the mo ements CON FI I TI A [PAGE 174] ONf ID._!3N7IAL Incident 4AF 1208 I 16 July 1947 MEUOR»:mm FOR THE OFFICER IN CRARGE On 12 July 1947 Captain Smith of the United A irlines was interviewed at the Boise Municipal Airport Boise Idaho Captain Smith was passing through Boise on a schedule flight at the time and had a 20 minute st op- over Captain Smith reiterated the statements original ma.de by him to the press as to what he had seen in the late evening of July 4th when minutes out of Bo i se on the oute to Seatt Washington It is the opinion of the interviewer th.at due to the posit i on Captain Smith occupies th.at he Captain Smith would ha ve to be very strong convinced that he actually saw ying disks before he would open himself for the id icule attached to a report of this type FRANK BR<:fJN S/A CIC AF [PAGE 175] Incident 4AF 1208 I 14 July 1947 MEllOR.AllDUlJ FOR THE OFFICER IN CHA."R GEt On 10 Ju 1947 a ohech we.s made at the follcwring ocations in Palm Springs California for the purpose of ying to ocate Mr Richard Rankin Palm Sprint;s Police Department Palm Springs Newspaper The De sert Sun Palm Springs Water Company Southern California Gas Company Palm Springs Telephone Company Palm Springs Employment Office Palm Springs Chamber of Commerce Ro yal Palms Hotel Palm Springs real estate offices and the City Offices of Palm Springs inoluding waste disposal water ights tax recor ds and etc No re oord of lir Rankin existed in any of the above mentioned offices On 11 Ju 1947 Mr Ry land Gorham Postmaste of Palm Springs California fo the past 14 years as inte viewed Mr Go ham stated that he had lived in Palm Spr ings f'or the past 24 years and that he was un aware if a person named Richard Rankin had ever lived in Palm Springs Mr Gorham stated that due to the fact that Palm Springs is a resort area and due to the fa ct that in the summer months only to ousand peop resided in Palm Springs whereas in the winte months 10 to 12 thousand resided in Palm Springs it was very possible that Mr Rankin could have lived in Palm Springs mo re or less on a non pe manent status and he Mr Go rham not being aware o:f it A oheok o:f Gen eral Delivery records revealed a letter a ddressed to Mr Richard Rankin Pa lm Springs mai ed fr om Cicero Indiana postn1arked at Cicero Indiana July 947 at The ret urn address on the envelope was listed as the Gospel Tract Worke Route Ci cero Indiana Mr Go rham permitted the contents o:f the enve ope to be examined inasmuch as the ontents was 3rd Cl ass material and the envelope not sealed The records were of a reli gious natu re concernin the sad pl ight of American non- church goe rs the second coming of Christ and etc Superintendent of Mails was contacted by Ir Go rham and tated that there was a Mr Richard Rankin who had received mail through the gener al delivery office of the Palm Springs Post Office but that the last mai other than the le tter mentioned above came throu gh the Post Office app roximately two years ag The Superintendent of Mails seemed to have a very uncanny memo ry and recalled where the mail ooming in for Ranki had been addressed to Thi mail was ad dressed to Mr Richard Rankin in care of a traile camp located in Palm Sprin gs On calling the trai er camp office it was found that Mr Rich ard had lived in the camp but depa ted approximately t\vo years ago and left no forwarding address Investigation is ont i nuing in an effort to locate Rankin and obtain a statement from him FRANK BROWN A CIC 4th AF [PAGE 176] eo~~I E]A FLYING rr scs 4AF- 120 I July 1947 MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE On 15 July 1947 S/Sgt Edward Baker ASN RA 39576378 467th AAF BU ORD Squadron A Hamilton Field California was interviewed and stated as follows S/Sgt Baker has been in the Army ten years and two months twenty six months overseas duty in the ETO and has been in the Air Corps for about ten months S/Sgt Baker stated that on July 1947 he was going to Base Cleaners from his office and was passing along the sidewalk near the barracks of the ORD when he saw five or s~x men pointing toward the sky but as he was use to this around an Army Air Base he paid no further attention to it until a lieutenant and a captain ahead of him stopped and pointed in the same direction He stated that on lancin up he saw three objects traveling northeast across the sky Two seemed to be traveling faster than an ordinary flight of 80s and he estimated the altitude between 10 000 feet and approximately 10 miles away S/Sgt Baker stated that the two objects in the lead appeared to be round and of a very light gray col.or while the object in the rear seemed to be either rotating or rolling behind the other two S/Sgt Baker stated that from a distance he could not tell exactly the shape of the one which was rolling as it appeared to be turning over and he couldn tell whether the object was flat The only means he had of identifying it was the fact that it seemed to get brighter and darker as it appeared to roll The objects were in sight approximately four seconds As he was in a hurry he did not stop to talk to the other men but he heard one of them remark that the one in the rear was certainly rolling fast S/Sgt Baker was unable to identify any of the other men in the group who were reported to have seen the object Baker stated that it was unlike anything he had ever seen and that he has been trying to convince himself that it was an optical illusion and yet at the same time he is certain that he saw the objects as described See Exhibit I NOTE S/Sgt Baker appears to be intelligent and is a reserved sort of person He was very reluctant to discuss the subject at first and appeared hesitant prompted by the possibility that he might be ridiculed He seemed to be honest and sincere in what he stated he saw and said frankly he was puzzled over the matter A signed statement by S/Sgt Baker is attached Incl Exhibit I LLIAM DAVIDSON Capt AC ore er 4AF [PAGE 177] UNITED STA OVERNMENT 65-481 TO Director FBI DATE September 1947 FROM SAC Butte SUBJECT FLYING DISCS Remy-tel August 20 1947 With reference to the above-described teletype Mr HEDSTROM 322 Third Avenue North Twin F~lls daho was the principal source of infor mation Mr HEDSTROM who is the Executive Director of Twin Falls Housing Authority explained that he and his ¢.fe and Mrs HENRY SHULTZ a neighbor were sitting on their front poroh at appro;rlmately 9s30 August 19 947 He said that Mrs HEDSTROM suddenly shouted and pointed to sky and therea.fter stated that she had seen an object tra\reling at a terrific rate of speed in a northeasterly direction The object was out of sight before Mr HE DSTROM and Mrs SHULT could see anything I While they were discussing what Mrs HEDSTROM ha.d seen approximately ten minutes later all three saw ten similar bjects pr oceeding rapidly in the same direction in the form of a triangle As the group of objects was dis appearing three of the ob jects on the left flank peeled off and pr oceeded in a IIX)re northerly direction The remaining bjects appeared to close saw ranks and proceeded in a northeasterly direction From three to five minutes later these same in vi us.ls group of three ob jects proceeding in the same direction and again in shape of a triangle From three to f'ive minutes later all three observed another group in a triangular formation consisting of five or six ob jects They were proceeding in the same direction A fevr minutes later the three persons saw a large group or objects estimated at from thirty-five to fifty flying in a triangular formation in the same direction Approximately twenty or twenty-five minutes after the large group of objects was observed similar ob jects were noted cOl'.ning back over the oity in a southwesterly direction These ob ects were generally in groups ot three five and seven and followed each other at approximately five minute inter va ls Mrs HEDSTR014 called Deteotive RI CHARD A FRA ZIER of the Twin Falls Police Department a next door neighb or who was then accompanied by ROUNTREE and RICHARD SC OTT ale Ill:lmbers of the Twin Fa ls Police Depar~nt The three officers watched £or a f'ew minutes and observed a group of about twelve objects flying in formation over the city in a southwesterly direction The IIJ3mbers of the Police Departm3nt did not continue watchiFng ough Mr al FRAZIER later saw other groups which were also seen by the HE and Mrs SHULTZ Mrs SHULTZ had also led her husband who saw the ob jects 23 OPIES DES'T'DQVED fl1 f)l I jr i 90 NO l!:10 i $fl [PAGE 178] Ju a LtY03iS 1YH H3!N I Hcl I ll I JU ca n't 60 03 Af333M [PAGE 179] I BT 65-481 On the night in question the sky was overcast and the objects could not be seen closely however they were distinct enough so that all persons co ld observe wlat they desoribed as a glow going through the air They said that the objects appe a red to be lighted t'rom the inside and were of a color similar to regular electric lig hts Detective FRAZIER and Ure HEDSTROM both stated tmt they could not be rm!lteors or comets that they flew on a vel line and did not appear to drop They flew at a terrific rate of speed and were visible for only a few minutes at a titll3 Both persons interviewed said th at the objects could ot have been geese or ducks and tbl the lights were not a reflection of the city lights on s0l'IJ3 object or objects None or the perscns inter'Vi.ewed noticed any flames or anything except the glow of lights None o:f the persons who claimed to have seen these objects were drinking at the time No other persons in TWin Falls reported seeing the objects mentioned herein however Mr HEDSTROM and Mr FRAZIER stated that it was purely by accident that they had seen the ob jects and the.t they would not have seen them unless they were lookin for th.em because of the speed at which they traveled On acoount the overcast sky they were unable to estimate the size of the objeots or the height at which they flew No further investigation is being conducted by the Butte Of f'ice and the a se is being closed RJG:Fo•s [PAGE 180] I FORM NO I Office Memorandum NIT ED STAT ES GO VE NMEN TO Director FBI DATE Septenber 1947 Am.MAIL FROM SAC San Francisco SPF.cIAL DELIVERY SUBJECT REPCRTS OF FLYING DISCS Fhclosed is a copy of a letter dated August 28 1947 from Lt Col OONALD SPRmGER of Hamilton Field Calif with an attachment referring to the sighting of a fiying object by Captain JA~CK and his co-pilot VmGa r,At'l near Bethel Alaska Photostatic copies of this letter and attachment are being forwarded to tll3 Anchorage Field Office In accordance with Bureau Bulletin #42 dated July 30 1947 Anchorage is requested to interview Captain JACK PECK and his co-pilot vmcE DALY preferably separately in order to cbtain all details of their reported sighting of a flying object on August 1947 The San Francisco Field Office should be furnished copies of the results of these interviews for distribution to the Sixth Army IntE!lligence DWK:MR 6.2-2938 &lcls cc Anchorage Ehcls AMSD RECORDED 3-2_2 IF lI INDEXED 34 EP 94 A uJ [PAGE 181] RECEIVED 52f>N i IN TERNAL SICURfl I PT OF If i i I [PAGE 182] SI GAK 000 A LASKA COMU.UMICA IOH SY STE SIGNAL CO RPS A CS.AD Seattle ashincton 19 Au ust 947 Subjoct Mattera or Nat ional I terest To Co rnt:1 nd in Gouerul Fourth A ir oroe Ran Fra oiso alif rnia Th attached letter as ee received om he COIC of he Al aska Col:llllunioation System stati on at Bet hel A laska It is sub mitted or our info rmat ion For the Coillllanding fficer a Svend Ia.n se SVE HANSEN In cl Ca tain Si gn al orps Cy ltr fr llCO I A ctin xecutive at Be el to Hq ACS Se tt 33 12 08 lot I nd 4AFDA HQ FOURTH AIR FO:t:E an i lt.on Fie Co lifo rn i a 28 A ur;u:3 947 TO Spooio.l Agent In Char FBI Dopartr.ent or Justioe Room 422 Fede a f'ico Bui i ng Snn Fro.ncisoo Cnlifo nia Forwnr dod for your lnfor~ntion D0NAL1 SPR I NGER In cl Lt Colone SC n/o AC of Authority NND 90986 [PAGE 183] [PAGE 184] Memorandur/Z UNITED ST ATES GOVE RN EN Director FBI DATE August 27 1947 SAC San Francisco SUBJECT REPORTS o.PFLYlliG DISCS Attention Ass ist ant Di ecto LADD Reference is mde to my letter of August 1947 with which there were transmitted photostatic copies of three letters dated August 1947 entit ed Investigation of Flying Discs In order to keep the Bu eau fully informed qoncerning this matter I am enclosing a letter dated July 28 1947 entitled Unidentifiable Ob jects furnished to me by Lt Colonel DO ALD SPRil1GER GSC A of Enclosed with this ette was a memorandum for the officer in charge written by LA./R::NC KIN JR Special A~ent CIC AdC dated July 15 1947 Lt Colonel DONALD SPRINGER furni::;hed me in person nith a memo randum entitled Incident for AF 12O8 I dated August 1947 and pre re by JA11.2S A NBLSON Special Agent CIC 4AF The Bureau will be kept currently advised of any future informal obtained in this matter D,/KaVL 62 2938 Enclosures 20C [PAGE 185] a er ul I I uJ 1(1 of i 1n1n:11s tN~3lN i LZ I [PAGE 186] [PAGE 187] [PAGE 188] [PAGE 189] [PAGE 190] 1947 Memorandum UNI TE STAT ES GOVERNMENT TO D~TOR FB I DATE August 27 FROM SAC 3Al wmc1sco SUBJECT PORTS OF LYTI.G DISCS AI''J 7.J.ON i\S..,L:,T u~T DI::--t.....CrOii L.aDD Colone ii-'11 ING.i.!.i.t r·ourth Air Force -ia.milton field California i tele honicilly advised peci.=u ttgent ICHALL Cn..:iSillY of the San Franciucfu Uffice at 10 40 won ust 27 1947 that a crsonal letter ad been received by his organization from IL..;M{Y 1.cL....OD city editor of the Suatt Times wLich stated in effect that b.;cause Vere are so I:Jany stories going around relative to flying discs and r~latcd r.1atter and that hi3 staff of reporters had been attemoti to get reliable infon..ation concerni such stories he was writing to inquir1 Hhether any governmental agency was eoing to make an official state1 cnt relative to the sitl.l.'.ltion pertainint to the flyin discs tr.at cLIDD al~o askec hetheJ it ould be percissib for is reporters to interview AIU~OL0 uA.tIL and ShITH relative to this situation Colonel SPRI'NG:Z stated that the abo -menti0ned letter was answered personally General on u"""-ust 25 1947 nd a,~vise Mr IcLEOD that as fa th r.rey ur Force was concerned they 1-iad no infon.ation which would definitel clear up the situation that as far as intervicvin persons Mr llcL!DD coulrl feel free to interview whoosoever desired in that there was no censorsh~J at the rosent tie that in the interest economy ul rourth Air Force eadquarters would not run out every lead or report of flJi.n.c discs but that if Tdll- founded and an.;::arently reliable nfornation were rece.:.ved 1at such infor ma tion ould be given attention UU fl- A copy of this letter being fornarded to the Seattle Field Tlivision for any action deemed advisable 62 2938 K/jo cc Seattle EP ef [PAGE 191] I UJnoas NH3J NJ d'id OS i I I l:i It tt i I 11d I [PAGE 192] IBS 1'"'0Y,....D IJOV 18 1964 l\,-y 1,1 lfr lmllON was quoted Qtf hM:ng oallea Meh and was advised that the Bureau was not intere8ted whenupon he notii"ied the Eastern Airlines and the Civil Aeronautic Authority- of the objects he had seen Both agencies are reported to have accepted the information stating they would investigate The clipping further stated that Mr WENYON had received no answer to date from either agency This clipping was submitted to me by the resident agents o£!1ce at ilmington together with the advice that no agent in Wilmington had been contacted Ur WENYON I directed Kr WENYON be interviewed to determine the ful1 facts rtr JIENYON was interrlewed and it was determined that his correct name is HO RACE P...,.JIENYON 1tr WENYON advised that he had been an airplane pilot approximate'.cy thirty- years He stated that in SeptElllber of 1946 71hile Ilg at an itude of 1,000 feet two or three miles south of Rehoboth each ela he noticed a projectile approximately fifteen inches in diameter which cro sed his course at right angles and was moving in a west-to-east direction According to lfr WENYON several jeta name were spurting fr om the object and it was traveling at a very high rate of speed 000 to 200 miles per hour He stated that in October of 1946 he observed a similar projectile while ing over Rehoboth Beach at 1,400 £eat 1bis was also traveling from west to east Vr WENYON stated that there is little question in his mind but that llbat he saw was some sort of rocket being test,ed He stated that he 111.shed to call the matter to the attention of the appropriate authority inaSDQ.ch he thought that the series of airplane crashes that have occurred rsr might in part be explained by what he had observed He stated tr reported the information to th Givil Aeronautics Authority a telephonically interviewe4 by port er fr om the Wi1Jningt0 f;t-vP I [PAGE 193] L/Dir FBI 9/4/47 Flying Discs Misce llaneous Mr WENYON stated that what he had seen traveled at such a high rate of speed that it was very difficult to describe it but the description 11 flyin mayonnaise jars 11 was concocted by the newspaper reporter This information has not been brought to the attention of any AI'Il\Y sources in view of the fact that only a pre liminary inquiry was con ducted on the basis of a news article which sets forth essentially the facts obtained from Mr WENYON No further action in this matter is contemplated by this office unless advised otherwise by the Bureau SB:arf 62-0 Attachment [PAGE 194] SUBJECT TD,YTJi:"r nr!iC q,nj"o't~'..."'J Lil ne:ton tg Mayoififais"l!-"Ylt,- Continued FTOm Fin Page ged from the theory that they oi-ted by Rehoboth Pilot re radio controlled flyu.1g miss!les stnt aloft by m1llt ry scien tists to the suggestion that they might be merely sun light reflected on wing taw of Jet-propelled rest en on Bel i eves Mystery Dis Cs planes t-P ropelled May Have Caused Big A Cross of Chattanooga Tenn a 34-year-old watchmaker an nounced he invented the flying saucer and submitted It to the War I Pl ane Crash on Memorial Day eteran Delaware pilot Forrest Wenyon of 123 Rehoboth Avenue Department in 1943 but his idea was th Beach disclosed last night that In the past 10 months he has rejected as not practical at the een objects now being loosely described as flying saucers but present time he calls flying mayonnaise jars Later he said he became con particular di..t!erence between the mysterious object of Mr vinced that the department elabo report and those which have now been observed in some rated on bis plan His model was ----=---------,40 states that the former accord- powdered with a rubber band Cross Jng to the pllot held a true course said but he bel1eved atomic power until they disappeared from sight now ls being used This would indicate a gu1f(w A Spokane Wash woman insisted J~t an aimed missjJe while thP the objects she saw were ot such rse of the saucers has been size that together they would take cribed by observers as trratlc up the space of a five-room house Wenyon said last night that if they landed but a Clearwater he first saw what loosely resembled FI¾ woman said the disks she ob a flying mayonnaise jar one after- serl ed resembled pie pans noon last September whi:P flying at Rutland Vt a woman re about 1,000 feet It was late in the ported she and her husband afternoon and the pilot was flying nessed a br!Jliant object in north night sky which she assumed to Suddenly at an estimated distance a flying saucer although it of 2,000 feet in front of his plane stationary and traveling from west to east Mr But at Cambridge Mass a house wenyon saw the jar."l was going wife said she saw a group of white at tremendous speed the p11ot flying saucers whirling around and was able to note sever tnings going at a tremendous speed The most important these ob- The Mas.sachusett.6 and Vermont servatlons insofar as ar xplanatlon reports brought to 40 the number is possible is that the jar appeared ot stat.es in which the objects have been observed to have some sort of rocket com bustion Mr Wenyon said that With New England getting into the game the Harvard University urts of silver flame from the tail astronomical observatory took note ir Carrying out the description of emed to provide the propulsion of the reports but said it had had flying mayonnaise jar Mr no luck so far in photographing one of the discs enyon said that the tall appeared ll be a lld which had been per- Tl.e mysterious sa ucers first were reported June 25 in the State forat.ed and that from these per foratlons the flames escaped Wasnington but Charlie Han let superintendent of the Kingt In a matter of two at the most al three seconds the object had dis port Tenn Times News composln appeared owr and past Fort Miles room said yesterday he had see the discs two years ago The pilot did not see It land and doesn't know whether did or not They were of a bright aluminum a Then on June while flying at color and were going at terrific speed Hamlet said explaining he re feet In a Stinson four passen kept quiet about them because of ds ger ship Mr Wenyon pilot of 30 the ak Ridge atomic bomb pli nt I ye experience saw other jar commission said they had no con- es didn't say much about it to then a war secret n(ction with the my st ery Re oboth Airport attac es al though Lester Barlow ot Stamford Conn th West which orlgmatec he did mention lt Wenyon international known explosives in sa Jeer reports continued to prxluce with a theory In mind called the ventor advanced the theory th at ob;ervers who claimed to have seen ederal Bureau of InvP.stigation the objects were radio controlled the whlrl!ng dies and also bre:ught re res flying missiles forth one deflationary explanation er him so he said He then called Reports persisted that the Army of them ti East.e1 Airlines and the Civil Aero was looking into the phenomena but Bob John son operat or of a nautic Authority both of which Gen Cari Spaatz Army Air Forces ing service at Missoula Mont re- gave him a sympathetic hearing commandant said he knew of no ported he had captw ed one of th or thanked him and said they'd inves AAJ Plans to search for the saucers discs and found it to be milkweed tlgate The Navy and Atomic Energy seeds Id To date he has received no answer Charles Odom -year-o from either mer B-17 navigator th eorized a Mr Wenyon's theory is that one of th Houston Tex that obJects I these jars WM responsible for the might be a version of radio-con- lrash of the Eutem Airlines plane trolled crystal balls ed by th I Port Depo,sit Md on Memorial Nazis in the war 111 hieh kllled 53 persons HP the the planes Tl1 ese balls which flew to the stories of that ac<:lder t1t1.,de of the bomber and appare md lieves now that ly v.ere magnetized to fly along on in mid-air sent to rac ib witnesses qta on omb